TDR Interview: Carrie Snyder
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Carrie
Snyder was born in Hamilton, Ontario, and grew up in Ohio,
Nicaragua, and Ayr, Ontario. Her first book, Hair Hat, is
published by Penguin Canada. She now lives in Waterloo, Ontario,
with her husband and two children and is working on a novel.
A book of poems titled Looking
Back, I Want It All will be published in 2004 by the
independent Kitchener-based press, Widows and Orphans. More
details about this project will forthcoming on Snyder's
website.
Michael Bryson interviewed Snyder by
email in May 2004.
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The biography of you in your book says you grew up in Ohio, Nicaragua
and Ontario. Did that seem like a lot of moving around? Have you always
thought of yourself as a writer (or wanted to be a writer)? Give us some
basic facts on who you are.
We did move a lot. But for a child, whatever is happening seems normal, and
I remember the moves as being adventures. I was 9 when we moved from Ohio to
Nicaragua (my parents worked for an organization called Witness for Peace),
and we were sent first to the American school, where the wealthy Nicaraguan
and the foreign bureaucrats sent their children and the classes were in
English, and then to the Colegio Bauptista which was not quite a public
school, although it wouldn't fit our Canadian idea of a private school.
I
was put into a grade four class with close to eighty students in one room.
There were no schoolbooks. The teacher wrote the lessons on the chalkboard
and we copied them into notebooks. Everything was in Spanish and I was quite
lost and lonely, though my Spanish improved as time went by. At school, in
my notebook, I wrote a lot of stories when I was supposed to be copying
something else. Some of them were epic, most were about horses. I remember
sending a letter, while in Nicaragua, to the author of the Encyclopedia
Brown series, asking how I could become a writer. The publisher kindly sent
me a large package of brand-new books. No advice, however.
We moved to Canada when I was 10, to Waterloo. We also spent several years
renting a farmhouse on a working farm. I studied English at the University
of Waterloo, and then at the University of Toronto where I earned an MA in
English Literature. I always hoped to become a writer. I wrote for the
pleasure of it, just like I read for the pleasure of it.
TDR published one of your poems in our inaugural edition (Sept. 1999).
You've just published a short story collection and you're working on getting
a novel published. Are you equally comfortable in all genres? Can you
express different parts of yourself in different genres? Any thoughts about
dis/connections between the different types of writing you do?
Each genre requires something different from me. I like the individual
challenges. In my teens and early twenties, I wrote poems almost every night
before bed, almost like writing in a journal. It was my way of finishing the
day. I would close my eyes and just type. Poems, for me, are intimate and
personal and hardest to share. Stories are satisfying because they can be
completed in a relatively short period of time, and the characters can be
drawn in glances so you don't have to like them quite so much. Novels
require long-term commitment, but there's much more room to play. There is
so much that is written and then discarded in a novel, because as you write,
you discover what you're really writing about, and most likely it's not
about what you thought it was. Stumbling onto that solid path through the
novel is a deeply rewarding moment.
If I'm in a poetry mood, like I was all last fall, there is no point in
trying to write something else. All fall I craved the intimacy, I craved the
sealed little jars of thought that poems are. Right now I'm in the mood for
a novel, a big juicy exploratory adventure. Stories hit me at odd hours. I
often write down ideas for stories which I'll turn to later, when I'm
neither in a poetry mood or a novel mood. I always want to be writing
something.
Okay. HAIR HAT. This is a collection of stories linked by a character
common to all of them. The character has hair shaped like a hat. What's the
deal with that?
I saw a man wearing a large, flamboyant hat, which may or may not have been
made out of hair. I didn't get a second glance. But the picture of him stuck
in my imagination. In the first hair hat story I ever wrote, he appeared
completely out of the blue. That was for a creative writing class and I
never finished it. More than two years later, I came across the story again.
Mostly I wondered who this man was. I wrote another hair hat story. I
remember reading it to my husband and saying, What is going on with this
hair hat man? Is it just too peculiar? I didn't really care. I was too
curious. I learned about him as I continued to write more stories. I feel
like I didn't invent him, but that he was given to me, he appeared, he
arrived.
He walks a fine line between being a figure of fun, a visual joke, and being
almost tragic. I think to those characters who really see him, he is
dignified despite the hair, they accept him, they recognize him. He is
himself.
To tell you the truth, I love the hair hat man. There are some days I wish
he would appear to me and lift me up by the elbow, offer some small magical
gift.
The Globe and Mail
reviewer of your book seemed to think that the hair hat trope was almost
irrelevant. I don't want to give too much away to any potential readers, but
I think it's fair to say that the stories in HAIR HAT are linked in a
subtle, almost tenuous way. Perhaps too tenuous for the Globe's reviewers.
However, the sensibility of your book reminded me of the light touch Sophia
Coppola demonstrated in LOST IN TRANSLATION. I wonder if you could say
something about the tension between linking the stories and what seems to be
your preference for the subtleties of narrative.
I saw "Lost in Translation" in the theatre last fall and loved it. I'm glad
Hair Hat reminded you of that movie, which was structured as a series of
vignettes, taking the viewer through many small (but not small) emotional
revelations, all the while building toward something. Hair Hat works in a
similar way, I think.
The links between the Hair Hat stories are often subtle, glancing. When I
arranged them into the final order, I had two things in mind: one was that I
was revealing through these stories the larger story of the hair hat man,
and there was a kind of teleological sense to them, working towards an end;
but I also thought about interior links between the stories, and how each
story's particular flavour of sadness, discovery, joy, fear, desire to know,
desire not to know, fit with the flavour of the stories before and after it.
I hope those links resonate.
The Globe and Mail reviewer did wonder whether the hair hat became
irrelevant in the end - I actually found that perspective quite interesting.
It wasn't what I was thinking about when shaping the stories, but I did
intend for the reader to become familiar with the hair hat, and perhaps
familiarity makes the hair hat seem less peculiar, so that in the end the
man wearing the hat becomes a person too, he steps outside of the hat's
boundaries. That's how I read the reviewer's comment.
The same reviewer also suggested that there would be a variety of individual
responses to the stories. That's what I hope for. I hope that Hair Hat will
involve readers in a very personal way. I hope that the book is ultimately
larger than the sum of its parts, that the subtlety leaves room for layers
of experience and meaning.
I'm going to use LOST IN TRANSLATION in this question, too. Someone said
to me that she liked LOST IN TRANSLATION because it depicted well that lost,
searching feeling many women have when they're in their twenties. HAIR HAT
is a book about growing up, in many ways as well. While many of the stories
are snapshots in time, and thus don't really "go anywhere," there is a
forward narrative through the collection about a teenaged girl who
disappeared. This disappearance is never fully resolved, and it left me with
a haunted feeling at the end of the book. Similarly, the story in LOST IN
TRANSLATION is never fully resolved. As are many relationships in life.
Maybe this is just another way of asking the previous question. Thoughts?
Your previous question got me thinking about what I thought I was attempting
to do when writing the stories. My original intention was simple, almost
basic: to tell the hair hat man's story through the eyes of people meeting
him at random. This was the only way I seemed able to meet him and that had
become very important to me.
But somehow in the writing of the stories, there seemed to be a certain kind
of character who would be likely to see a hair hat man (not everyone in the
book does see him, after all), and ultimately it is those characters - and
the hair hat man himself - who give the book its haunting flavour. There is
such a divide between what the characters mean to say and what they actually
say, what they mean to do and what they actually do. That's my experience in
life, too. But the hair hat man stands in opposition to that, I think. He is
what he is, he does what he does.
Maybe what's haunting about human relationships in general is that they are
governed by forces within us and without us, and we think we should have
control over them, but we rarely do. Or maybe we're not brave enough. Maybe
we don't want to risk standing out like the hair hat man does. But there is
beauty and hope to be found in our relationships, no matter how fractured.
Actually, those fractures are what is beautiful, to me. That haunting
feeling is linked, too, to hope.
Also, I do think the stories go somewhere - there is a sense of searching
for and discovering in each, a moment of change. Like most change, it's
fleeting, almost ungraspable, almost indefinable, but sweet with potential.
But it doesn't matter to me whether that potential is ever realized and
maybe that's why the stories seem like snapshots. And like snapshots, the
stories can be returned to - I hope readers want to return to them - like
moments in our own lives that we want to look at again and again, wondering
about, wondering what we did wrong or right, maybe wishing we could enter
that moment and experience it again.
Without meaning to, without setting out to, I think in Hair Hat I created
another world, sadder, braver, better, than my regular one. That's why I
return, even now, to these stories and these characters.
Usually we end with a question: What are you working on now? But I also
wanted to ask you about work/life balance. You and your husband have two
children. How do you find time to write?
Short answer: I have help. Frankly, if I were alone full-time with a
three-year-old and an 18-month-old, I would be writing poetic grocery lists
and little else. We moved back to Waterloo last summer to be nearer to my
parents. My mother has become a major part of my writing life. She babysits
two hours a day, every weekday. And I put that time to good use.
If I'm working intensely on a project, like I was recently, my husband
spends as much time as possible getting the kids out of the house (evenings,
weekends) while I write like I'm possessed.
I just completed a solid draft of a new novel, so I'm re-entering normal
life again. It's almost impossible to concentrate on anything else when I
get to a certain stage in the novel. It's like I'm living in another world
and everything else - ie. real life! - is an irritation. Which is completely
unfair to everyone around me - and they deserve so much better! In that
final push, I feel extremely conflicted and guilt-ridden and wonder whether
I'm out of my mind to be sacrificing my children's babyhood to these
characters who don't actually exist.
Thankfully, it's a brief phase. And I think without that other world to
escape to, I might go a little bit crazy. Everyone needs a break from
full-time parenting. Writing is mine.
Michael Bryson is the
editor of The Danforth Review.
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