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GOVERNMENT ORDERS

[Translation]

EMPLOYMENT INSURANCE ACT

The House resumed from May 10, 1996 consideration of Bill C-12, an act respecting employment insurance in Canada, as reported (with amendments) from the committee.

Mr. Chris Axworthy (Saskatoon-Clark's Crossing, NDP) moved:

Motion No. 75
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 63.
Mrs. Jan Brown (Calgary Southeast, Ref.) moved:

Motion No. 76
That Bill C-12, in Clause 63, be amended by
(a) replacing line 19, on page 60, with the following:
``63.(1) Subject to subsection (2), the Commission may, with the approv-''; and
(b) adding the following after line 34 on page 60:
``(2) Where the government of a province notifies the Commission in writing that it wishes to enter into an agreement to provide for the annual payment by the Commission of contributions equivalent to all costs and expenses relating to the employment benefits and support measures that are to be made each year by the Commission in the province, the Commission shall enter into such an agreement forthwith.''
Mrs. Francine Lalonde (Mercier, BQ): Mr. Speaker, we are getting near the end of this stage which unfortunately, just as all other stages of consideration of this bill, has been cut short by the government. First of all, this bill did not follow the normal procedure since it was referred to committee before second reading, where the official opposition usally has the opportunity to talk about the principles of a bill. And now, at report stage in the House, the government has once again decided to limit debate.

I think the government does not want to give us the opportunity to tell the truth about this reform in the House of Commons because it is afraid that, if people learn the truth, there will be even more pressure on the government.

After all these demonstrations in areas where there had not been any in a long time, we had further proof of the people's dissatisfaction in the 40,000 cards Quebecers sent to the Leader of the Official Opposition so he could give them to the Minister of Human Resources Development, who was not there to receive them. But the cards are there.

If people are so much opposed to this bill, it is because it changes dramatically the conditions of the unemployment insurance program, which is the only protection available to ordinary people, to those who are not rich, to those who do not have lifetime job security, and that includes a lot of people.

The only people who will be less affected by this bill are those who already have a steady job, who already work 35 hours a week or more. But even these people will be affected by the level of maximum benefits and by the reduction of the benefit period to 45 weeks. Even they will be affected, because their sons, wives, friends, and people from their areas will be affected, because economically, as well as socially, this bill is a bad bill.

I would say it is a bad bill for Canada as well. And you might look at me and consider it ironic, coming from a member of the Bloc Quebecois. Yes, Mr. Speaker, but on this issue, as on so many others, the official opposition has fulfilled its function because, when we are here, we are defending not just Quebec's interests in this Parliament, but also the interests of Quebecers, which are just as affected as Canadians in Atlantic Canada or anywhere else in Canada by this UI reform.

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This reform has an impact on the economy and on Canada. Why? Because since the beginning, UI was, in my view, a form of transfer from the richer regions, those where work is the most plentiful, to the poorer regions, where it is harder to find a decent-paying job.

But the purpose of this bill, and it is there for anyone who reads the documents put out by the department, is to reduce equalization payments. People in the regions quite rightly protested. They were being targeted. But they are not the only ones targeted, far from it.

In addition to tightening up eligibility requirements, as was mentioned, in addition to reducing benefits, in addition to slashing the level of benefits for those without stable jobs, this bill has the


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detestable feature of increasing the arbitrary and discretionary power of the commission, which has dwindled to a shadow of its former self, because, to all intents and purposes, the department takes over what used to be the commission's role. Employees are now employees of the department. So, there is more arbitrary power, and definitely more punitive measures.

As proof, I offer the amendments presented by the government, because it was the only one able to present any, on all the provisions involving expenditures and revenues. These amendments solve very few problems for very few people and, in themselves, will not offset the department's intended cuts. Those cuts will be replaced with additional sanctions.

It is important to note that there is a very low level of unemployment insurance fraud, based on what we know about the incidence of fraud in various public programs. It is important to point out that, of the nearly $14 billion paid out in benefits, cases involving fraud accounted for $94 million this past year, or far less than 1 per cent. The number of individuals found guilty of fraud is also far lower than that figure.

I have heard from so many lawyers working with people who have been having horrendous problems with UI. Moreover, numerous rulings by both the umpire and the federal appeal court have repeatedly shown that people are very much at a disadvantage when it comes to unemployment insurance. If they do win their case, all that they obtain as a judgment is that the commission will review its decision, so many people do not even protest, because they cannot afford to.

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Something we fear will happen, and it will if the government continues along this path, is that there will be more work done under the table, more arrangements between employers and employees to get around this legislation.

The government still has time, there is no urgency. The purpose of our proposed amendment is to encourage the government to take the necessary time for proper consultations aimed at true reform. There is no rush to precipitate regions into very high unemployment levels, no rush to hurl those with no security except unemployment insurance into far greater poverty.

[English]

Hon. Hedy Fry (Secretary of State (Multiculturalism)(Status of Women), Lib.): Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to speak in support of the employment insurance legislation before the House.

The bill is key to our government's commitment to the reform of the social security system. As Secretary of State for the Status of Women and as a B.C. MP, I am pleased to say fairness and inclusiveness are hallmarks of the bill. It retools the outdated Unemployment Insurance Act of 1971 for our times.

In the 1990s structural unemployment created a new problem that the old UI system had not been designed to address. Through no fault of their own, workers were being laid off and found it difficult to get permanent work. There are many reasons for this, not the least of which is the advent of a new era of technological and information based industries.

The end result was that UI, which was meant to assist workers through temporary short term job displacement, was ill equipped to respond to the frequent recurrent, and in some cases permanent, job loss characteristic of structural unemployment.

The only way to deal with structural unemployment, as the rest of the industrial world is beginning to find out, is to become relevant to the new industrial reality. To do this means retraining and providing workers with the tools and skills for the new world of work. Canadians want to work, to be independent economically and to provide the infrastructure for Canada's competitiveness in the global economy.

This bill creates a new and modern employment insurance system for Canadians who agree we need to realign our social programs and who want these changes made with fairness and with flexibility, with a human face.

Canadians have had a direct hand in shaping this reform and the result is an insurance plan that focuses on employment, training and entrepreneurship, not unemployment. This new system will help more Canadians prepare for, find and keep work in the new economy, and goes so far as to create jobs.

One of the most significant features of this reform is that while 96 per cent of current UI recipients will still be eligible, 500,000 new claimants will be able to receive benefits, a majority of whom are women and youth.

The new bill also recognizes the regional diversity of the country. For the first time, fewer hours will be required to qualify in high unemployment areas such as northern B.C. and the maritimes. The bill recognizes for the first time the inherent differences in the work patterns of men and women and seeks to remedy them.

The evolution of women's aspiration for equality has created a different dynamic in the workforce. Today women make up 45 per cent of the paid workforce.

[Translation]

Women have become such a force in the labour market in the past 25 years that addressing issues of interest to women means addressing the numerous characteristics of the new economy, issues such as nontraditional work, conflicts between job and family responsibilities, and various models for entering the work force.


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Women tend to work fewer hours than men and to earn less. They are more likely to be in nontraditional jobs.

[English]

The new EI recognizes the different realities of women and men because it is the first major federal initiative designed with the benefit of formal gender analysis. I point out how this has been reflected in Bill C-12.

One of the major strengths of this legislation is the move from weeks of work to hours of work as the basis of the plan. In today's fluid job market the week is no longer the best measure of labour force participation. The hour is a more accurate measure of work effort since it will acknowledge the efforts of all part time workers who put in under 15 hours of work a week, often doing so in more than one job, and who were not allowed to participate in the benefits other workers enjoyed. Now premiums are paid from the first hour worked. Every hour counts toward a claim.

For the first time women may be able to qualify for maternity, parental and other special benefits they were previously ineligible for. Almost 70 per cent of part time workers are women. This change means 500,000 more Canadians will have their work insured for the first time. Concerns have been raised that if women in this position cannot get more hours of work they will lose their claim to maternity or parental benefits.

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Gender based analysis showed that at most 2 per cent of current maternity claimants would need to work longer to qualify for these special benefits but that they will get them. Also, now that every hour counts, employers will have less reason to limit the hours of their part time workers as they did in the past. Many Canadians who hold down multiple jobs will be eligible for EI for the very first time.

Another group of workers who will benefit under the new system are seasonal workers, 38 per cent of whom comprise the B.C. workforce. These people working in logging, mining, fisheries, tourism and construction. They often have a gap in the off season which breaks up their continuous weeks of work criteria. Now, not only will they carry over for up to a 26 week gap, but the hour system will increase their eligibility by recognizing the intensity of their work over the on season.

Bill C-12 will help low income Canadians. Some 350,000 Canadians with family incomes of less than $26,000 a year will be eligible for the family income supplement. Two-thirds of these are women who will receive a top up for up to 13 per cent of their benefit. They will be able to keep a foot in the job market door by supplementing their benefits by $50 or 25 per cent of their weekly benefits, whichever is higher.

About 1.3 million low income Canadians will now have their EI premiums refunded, including almost 700,000 women and about 300,000 youth.

The new EI plan is a pro-employment plan where benefits will be balanced by five active employment initiatives designed to help unemployed Canadians find their place in the labour force. Wage subsidies will give employers an incentive to hire people in targeted groups who face barriers to employment. Many of these beneficiaries will be women and youth.

An innovative new benefit, targeted earning supplements, will top up the income of eligible claimants who take a low earning job.

Self-employment assistance has already helped more than 34,000 Canadians to start their own businesses. This is especially exciting for women who now make up one in every three entrepreneurs. Skills, loans and grants support individual initiative and commitment.

Access to these benefits has been broadened to include more Canadians. Anyone who received insurance benefits in the previous three years and anyone who has claimed maternity, parental or adoptive benefits in the past five years, will now be included.

[Translation]

This new system is both economically and socially responsible. It is proactive and balanced.

[English]

It will bridge the difficult transition in a world that is moving out of one industrial era into another, where the status quo no longer works, where a plan designed to meet the needs of a boom generation has become irrelevant.

Change is always difficult at best. How to change in ways that moves us forward competitively into the new world reality is what the EI bill proposes. It reinforces the value of work and our belief as Canadians that we can create prosperity and security in the new millennium. I urge the House to pass this bill and to help Canada accept the challenges and benefits that the 21st century offers.

[Translation]

Mrs. Christiane Gagnon (Québec, BQ): Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to intervene once again on Bill C-12. I do not understand how the secretary of state can boast that this is a bill for women. I do not believe it for a minute.

I do not know whether the secretary of state heard or read the same news as us, but it is a fact that no more than two weeks ago a press conference was held here by a number of women's groups. They included NAC, the Fédération des femmes du Québec and a number of other groups that criticized this bill, because it is bad for women.


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Why is it bad for women? Because it will penalize part time women workers, and not only women but young people. The secretary of state for the status of women said that 77 per cent of women worked in part time jobs. How is it she is alone in saying so-because she represents the Liberal government, which supports the bill-when women are criticizing this bill, which will penalize part time workers?

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The government is boasting that UI benefits are counted and paid as of the first hour worked, but these women, who work less than 15 hours, will not qualify, as we know very well. A lot of women work part time and less than 15 hours a week. What is going to happen? These women will not qualify for unemployment insurance benefits.

I am not the only one saying so, and my colleagues in the Bloc are not the only ones saying so. Women's groups in Canada and in Quebec, and not just Quebec, are saying so. It is not simply for partisan reasons we are speaking to this issue, a lot of people outside the Bloc have criticized it.

I do not know whether the secretary of state watched the news on the weekend, but as late as yesterday, on Mother's Day, a press conference was held in Montreal where unions and Françoise David, representing the Fédération des femmes du Québec, criticized this bill on behalf of women because it is no good.

I very much regretted the absence of the Advisory Council on the Status of Women. It could have taken the government to task and could have expressed its opinion on this unfortunate bill, which hurts women. The government deplores poverty among women, but what is it doing with this bill? It is going to increase poverty among women, because women will not be able to qualify.

Also, the secretary of state is boasting that it will be a good piece of legislation for women, and that pregnant women will be entitled to more UI benefits. I wonder how the government intends to help women when, in the case of pregnant women, they will need 716 hours of work to qualify for UI benefits.

A number of people will be affected by this bill, especially seasonal workers. I assume women too have seasonal jobs. For instance, women in the tourism sector, or fisheries; this is seasonal work. Will these women be penalized because they do not hold full time jobs, either by choice or because they have children at home and cannot work full time? Yes, they are going to be penalized.

I will say it again, I do not understand why this government is insisting on passing this bill, which will be bad for women. It should go back to the drawing board and review this bill.

When the Liberals were in the opposition, they criticized certain aspects of this legislation, they criticized the Conservative Party. They said it was on the wrong track, and was going to penalize people. Everything we are saying now was said then by the Liberals. Why? Because they were in the opposition.

Now they are in power and they do not have the courage to go ahead with what they criticized in the past. Today, I am criticizing them for it. I am criticizing the lack of realism on the part of this government with regard to unemployment.

We all know that times are tough in terms of employment. People are without a job through no choice of their own. This weekend, we learned in the news that hotels Le Méridien and Auberge des Gouverneurs are facing financial difficulties. What does that mean? It means the employees of those hotels will soon be unemployed. This is disturbing.

The unemployment insurance fund is going very well; there is a $5 billion surplus in the fund. Five billion dollars! Instead of helping these people make it between two jobs, they are reducing the number of benefit weeks and making criteria more exacting.

The secretary of state for status of women said earlier that the employment insurance program, which is no longer called the unemployment insurance program, will not necessarily deal with unemployment, but instead will give grants so that people can receive training and return to work.

This is another case of duplication and overlapping, and I regret this way they have of interfering in areas already under Quebec's jurisdiction. Instead of sending the money and budgets necessary for the implementation of a real employment policy in Quebec, instead of helping workers and facilitating their training, they keep $5 billion and adopt a piecemeal approach to solve the unemployment problem which is still prevailing in Quebec and in Canada.

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Several groups testified before us and are shocked to see the government's lack of compassion for the precarious circumstances of some people who find themselves on unemployment insurance through no fault of their own. So, it is no longer an unemployment insurance.

As I was saying recently in a speech, it is no longer an insurance that makes sure people will have a minimum of money to provide for their needs when they lose their job. If 77 per cent of women work in part time jobs, they will be doubly penalized by this bill.

They will be penalized because they will no longer have a job and they know very well that these are very precarious jobs. There is no continuity in part time employment. They will have a hard time finding another job. This will mean these women, men and young people will go on welfare. You know, going on welfare is a vicious circle. What does it mean for these people? It means moving further away from the possibility of finding another job.


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When the government was in opposition, it was against discriminatory measures targeting the unemployed. It should reconsider because it will have to pay the price.

As we have seen, the people of Quebec and of Canada are against this bill that does not provide unemployment insurance in case of job loss. The government will penalize people over the number of benefit weeks and will raise the criteria, so that the unemployed will no longer receive the assistance they expect.

Yet, these people have paid their premiums. I too am paying premiums and I hope I will not have to rely on the UI system some day. But these people have paid so that other people, perhaps even themselves, can receive UI benefits some day. It is not by penalizing them, by increasing the hours of work required that the government will solve the problem.

Moreover, they take the money from the pockets of people who will never qualify for unemployment insurance because they did not accumulate the 700 to 910 hours of work per year required to be eligible for UI benefits.

Meanwhile, as I said before, the government is keeping $5 billion in its own pockets. But that is not all. It is only for this year. What will happen with next year's surpluses? This government is responsible for social cohesion. Only the future will reveal the impact of today's unemployment, and the government will be responsible.

The Deputy Speaker: Is the House ready for the question?

Some hon. members: Question.

[English]

The Deputy Speaker: The question is on Motion No. 76. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: A recorded division on the motion stands deferred.

Shall we call it 12.30?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

The Deputy Speaker: It is my duty to interrupt the proceedings and put forthwith every question necessary to dispose of the report stage and second reading of the bill now before the House.

Mr. Boudria: On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, I believe you would find unanimous consent that all remaining motions be deemed to have been proposed to the House, recorded divisions on the motions be deemed to have been requested and deferred. If we get that consent, Mr. Speaker can then propose to ask for a recorded division.

[Translation]

Mrs. Jan Brown (Calgary Southeast, Ref.) moved:

Motion No. 81
That Bill C-12, in Clause 67, be amended by replacing line 32, on page 62, with the following:
``67.(1) Subject to section 70, a person, other than a full-time student within the meaning of the Income Tax Act,''.
The Deputy Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: The recorded division on the motion stands deferred.

Mr. Chris Axworthy (Saskatoon-Clark's Crossing, NDP) moved:

Motion No. 80
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 67.
The Deputy Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.


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The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: The recorded division on the motion stands deferred.

Hon. Douglas Young (Minister of Human Resources Development, Lib.) moved:

Motion No. 93
That Bill C-12, in Clause 78, be amended by replacing lines 4 and 5 on page 67 with the following:
``78. The total amount that may be paid out by the Commission under section 61 and pararaph 63(a) and charged''.
The Deputy Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the yeas have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: The recorded division on the motion stands deferred.

Mr. Chris Axworthy (Saskatoon-Clark's Crossing, NDP) moved:

Motion No. 92
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 78.
The Deputy Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: The recorded division on the motion stands deferred.

Mrs. Jan Brown (Calgary Southeast, Ref.) moved:

Motion No. 112
That Bill C-12, in Clause 96, be amended by replacing line 32, on page 81, with the following:
``refund to the person, together with interest at the prescribed rate on these amounts calculated from the day they were paid into the Consolidated Revenue Fund, the aggregate of all''.
The Deputy Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: The recorded division on the motion stands deferred.

Mrs. Jan Brown (Calgary Southeast, Ref.) moved:

Motion No. 113
That Bill C-12, in Clause 96, be amended by replacing lines 45 to 48, on page 81, and lines 1 and 2, on page 82 with the following:
``$2,000-(IE-P)+I
where
P is the aggregate of all deducted amounts mentioned in subsection (4);
IE is the person's insurable earnings in the year; and
I is the interest at the prescribed rate on the deducted amounts calculated from the day they were paid into the Consolidated Revenue Fund.''
The Deputy Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: A recorded division on the motion stands deferred.

Mr. Chris Axworthy (Saskatoon-Clark's Crossing, NDP) moved:


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Motion No. 111

That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 96.
The Deputy Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: A recorded division on the motion stands deferred.

Mrs. Jan Brown (Calgary Southeast, Ref.) moved:

Motion No. 128
That Bill C-12 be amended by adding after line 29, on page 96, the following new Clause:
``110.1 The Commission shall, no later than thirty days before a pilot project is tested, cause a notice to be published in the Canada Gazette that contains the following:
(a) a statement that the Commission is preparing to test a pilot project;
(b) the nature and objectives of the pilot project;
(c) a description of the operation of the pilot project;
(d) a statement of how long the pilot project will last and when testing will commence;
(e) a statement that a detailed description of the pilot project may be obtained free of charge, on request by any person, from the Commission at the address set out in the notice; and
(f) an invitation to all interested persons to make representations before the Commission respecting the pilot project and the time period for doing so.''
The Deputy Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: A recorded division on the motion stands deferred.

Mrs. Jan Brown (Calgary Southeast, Ref.) moved:

Motion No. 188
That Bill C-12 be amended by adding after line 25, on page 131, the following new Clause:
``Standardization during transitional period

167.1 (1) Notwithstanding any other provision of this Act, the Commission shall, during the period between January 5, 1997 and January 5, 2002, with the approval of the Governor in Council, make regulations that, in its opinion, are required for the purpose of
(a) gradually eliminating the concept of regional rates of unemployment during this period and dealing with any resulting legal consequences, so that, by January 5, 2002, a claimant, provided that the claimant otherwise qualifies for unemployment benefits under this Act, may qualify for unemployment benefits without regard to a regional rate of unemployment; and
(b) adjusting, during this period, the number of weeks of insurable employment or the number of hours of insurable employment required for a claimant to qualify for unemployment benefits, so that, by January 5, 2002,
(i) the number of hours of insurable employment required to qualify for unemployment benefits will be the same throughout Canada, and

(ii) the standardized qualifying period in paragraph (b)(i) shall apply without reference to a regional rate of unemployment;

(2) The Governor in Council shall, by order,
(a) after consultation with the Commission, amend any provision in this Act that is inconsistent with the objectives and transitional duties referred to in subsection (1); and
(b) no later than January 5, 2002,
(i) establish a standard qualifying period that is valid throughout Canada, based on the number of hours of insurable employment during a qualifying period and calculated without reference to a regional rate of unemployment; and

(ii) amend any provision in this Act that is inconsistent with the standard qualifying period referred to in subparagraph (i).''

The Deputy Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.


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And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: A recorded division on the motion stands deferred.

Mrs. Jan Brown (Calgary Southeast, Ref.) moved:

Motion No. 192
That Bill C-12, in Clause 169, be amended by replacing lines 11 to 21, on page 132, with the following:
``2) The Minister shall lay a copy of the report of the Auditor General of the accounts and financial transactions of the Commission relating to employment insurance and of the state of the Employment Insurance Account before each House of Parliament on the first sitting day on which that House is sitting after the day the Minister receives the report.''
The Deputy Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: A recorded division on the motion stands deferred.

Mr. Chris Axworthy (Saskatoon-Clark's Crossing, NDP) moved:

Motion No. 191
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 169.
The Deputy Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: A recorded division on the motion stands deferred.

Hon. Douglas Young (Minister of Human Resources Development, Lib.) moved:

Motion No. 215
That Bill C-12 in Clause 190, be amended
(a) by replacing lines 3 and 4 on page 141 with the following:
``(e) sections 14 to 17;''
(b) by replacing line 13 on page 141 with the following:
``(l) paragraph 108(1)(h);
(1.1) subsection 153.1(3); and''
(c) by replacing lines 31 to 34 on page 141 with the following:
``(5) The provisions enacted by section 6 of Schedule II continue to apply in place of sections 14, 16 and 17 of this Act to claimants''.
The Deputy Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House of adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion, the yeas have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: A recorded division on the motion stands deferred.

Mr. Chris Axworthy (Saskatoon-Clark's Crossing, NDP) moved:

Motion No. 214
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 190.
The Deputy Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House of adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion, the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: A recorded division on the motion stands deferred.

Hon. Douglas Young (Minister of Human Resources Development, Lib.) moved:

Motion No. 219

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That Bill C-12 be amended by adding after line 22 on page 153, the following new Clause:
``17.1 The following applies in place of subsection 153.1(3):
(3) The scheme established by the regulations may not provide special benefits to persons who
(a) have less than 20 weeks of insurable employment in their qualifying period; or
(b) are subject to an increase under section 7.1 in the number of hours of insurable employment required to qualify for benefits.''
The Deputy Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the yeas have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: A recorded division on the motion stands deferred.

Hon. Douglas Young (Minister of Human Resources Development, Lib.) moved:

Motion No. 216
That Bill C-12 be amended in -T clause 6 of Schedule II
(a) by replacing line 26 on page 148 with the following:
``section 14:'';
(b) by replacing line 30 on page 148 with the following:
``(a) 55% of the claimant's average weekly insurable'';
(c) by replacing line 1 on page 149 with the following:
``(i) 60% of the claimant's average weekly insur-'';

(d) by replacing lines 7 and 8 on page 149 with the following:
``average weekly insurable earnings and $225, if the claimant's average weekly insurable earnings'';
(e) by replacing lines 11 to 13 on page 149 with the following:
(2) The average weekly insurable earnings of a major attachment claimant are the insurable earnings in the last 20 weeks of insurable employment in their qualifying period divided by 20.
(3) The average weekly insurable earnings of a minor attachment claimant are the insurable earnings in their qualifying period divided by the larger of the following divisors:
(a) the divisor that equals the number of weeks on insurable employment in their qualifying period, and
(b) the divisor determined in accordance with the following table by reference to the applicable regional rate of unemployment:
TABLE

Regional Rate of Unemployment Divisor
not more than 8% 20
more than 8% but not more than 9% 19
more than 9% but not more than 10% 18
more than 10% but not more than 11% 17
more than 11% but not more than 12% 16
more than 12% but not more than 13% 15
more than 13% 14
(4) The Commission may, with the approval'';
(f) by replacing lines 21 and 22 on page 149 with the following:
``qualifying period for a period, whether on a weekly basis or otherwise, for calculating and estab-''.
The Deputy Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the yeas have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: A recorded division on the motion stands deferred.

Hon. Douglas Young (Minister of Human Resources Development, Lib.) moved:

Motion No. 217
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting clause 7 of Schedule II.
The Deputy Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the yeas have it.


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And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: A recorded division on the motion stands deferred.

Hon. Douglas Young (Minister of Human Resources Development, Lib.) moved:

Motion No. 218
That Bill C-12 be amended in clause 10 of Schedule II
(a) by replacing lines 29 to 39 on page 150 with the following:
``10. (1) The following applies in place of paragraph 30(1)(a):
(a) the claimant has, since losing or leaving the employment, been employed in insurable employment for the number of weeks required by section 7 to qualify for benefits; or
(2) The following applies in place of subsections 30(6) and (7):
(6) Where a claimant who has lost or left an employment as described in subsection (1) makes an initial claim for benefits, the following weeks of insurable employment may not be used for the purposes of subsection 7(2) or (3):
(a) weeks of insurable employment from that or any other employment before the day on which that employment was lost or left; and
(b) weeks of insurable employment in any employment that the claimant subsequently loses or leaves, as described in subsection (1).''
(b) by striking out lines 2 to 5 on page 151 and substituting the following:
``any employment that a claimant loses or leaves as described in subsection (1) may be used for the purposes''.
The Deputy Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the yeas have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: A recorded division on the motion stands deferred.

[English]

Mr. Chris Axworthy (Saskatoon-Clark's Crossing, NDP) moved:

Motion No. 9
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 4.
Motion No. 11
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 6.
Motion No. 12
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 7.
Motion No. 13
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 8.
Motion No. 14
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 9.
Motion No. 15
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 10.
Motion No. 16
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 11.
Motion No. 19
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 13.
Motion No. 26
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 16.
Motion No. 27
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 17.
Motion No. 28
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 18.
Motion No. 29
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 19.
Motion No. 30
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 20.
Motion No. 31
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 21.
Motion No. 32
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 22.
Motion No. 33
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 23.
Motion No. 34
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 24.
Motion No. 37
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 26.
Motion No. 38
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 27.
Motion No. 39
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 28.
Motion No. 40
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 29.
Motion No. 41
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 30.
Motion No. 42
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 31.
Motion No. 43
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 32.


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Motion No. 44

That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 33.
Motion No. 45
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 34.
Motion No. 46
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 35.
Motion No. 47
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 36.
Motion No. 48
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 37.
Motion No. 49
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 38.
Motion No. 50
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 39.
Motion No. 51
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 40.
Motion No. 52
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 41.
Motion No. 53
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 42.
Motion No. 54
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 43.
Motion No. 55
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 44.
Motion No. 56
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 45.
Motion No. 57
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 46.
Motion No. 58
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 47.
Motion No. 59
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 48.
Motion No. 60
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 49.
Motion No. 61
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 50.
Motion No. 62
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 51.
Motion No. 63
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 52.
Motion No. 64
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 53.
Motion No. 65
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 54.
Motion No. 66
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 55.
Motion No. 67
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 56.
Motion No. 68
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 57.
Motion No. 69
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 58.
Motion No. 70
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 59.
Motion No. 71
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 60.
Motion No. 74
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 62.
Motion No. 77
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 64.
Motion No. 78
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 65.
Motion No. 79
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 66.
Motion No. 82
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 68.
Motion No. 83
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 69.
Motion No. 84
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 70.
Motion No. 85
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 71.
Motion No. 86
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 72.
Motion No. 87
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 73.
Motion No. 88
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 74.
Motion No. 89
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 75.
Motion No. 90
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 76.
Motion No. 91
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 77.
Motion No. 94
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 79.
Motion No. 95
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 80.
Motion No. 96
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 81.


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Motion No. 97

That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 82.
Motion No. 98
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 83.
Motion No. 99
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 84.
Motion No. 100
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 85.
Motion No. 101
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 86.
Motion No. 102
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 87.
Motion No. 103
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 88.
Motion No. 104
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 89.
Motion No. 105
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 90.
Motion No. 106
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 91.
Motion No. 107
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 92.
Motion No. 108
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 93.
Motion No. 109
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 94.
Motion No. 110
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 95.
Motion No. 114
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 97.
Motion No. 115
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 98.
Motion No. 116
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 99.
Motion No. 117
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 100.
Motion No. 118
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 101.
Motion No. 119
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 102.
Motion No. 120
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 103.
Motion No. 121
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 104.
Motion No. 122
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 105.
Motion No. 123
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 106.
Motion No. 124
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 107.
Motion No. 125
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 108.
Motion No. 126
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 109.
Motion No. 127
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 110.
Motion No. 129
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 111.
Motion No. 130
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 112.
Motion No. 131
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 113.
Motion No. 132
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 114.
Motion No. 133
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 115.
Motion No. 134
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 116.
Motion No. 135
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 117.
Motion No. 136
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 118.
Motion No. 137
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 119.
Motion No. 138
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 120.
Motion No. 139
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 121.
Motion No. 140
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 122.
Motion No. 141
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 123.
Motion No. 142
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 124.
Motion No. 143
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 125.
Motion No. 144
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 126.
Motion No. 145
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 127.


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Motion No. 146

That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 128.
Motion No. 147
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 129.
Motion No. 148
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 130.
Motion No. 149
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 131.
Motion No. 150
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 132.
Motion No. 151
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 133.
Motion No. 152
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 134.
Motion No. 153
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 135.
Motion No. 154
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 136.
Motion No. 155
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 137.
Motion No. 156
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 138.
Motion No. 157
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 139.
Motion No. 158
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 140.
Motion No. 159
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 141.
Motion No. 160
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 142.
Motion No. 161
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 143.
Motion No. 162
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 144.
Motion No. 163
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 145.
Motion No. 164
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 146.
Motion No. 165
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 147.
Motion No. 166
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 148.
Motion No. 167
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 149.
Motion No. 168
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 150.
Motion No. 169
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 151.
Motion No. 170
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 152.
Motion No. 172
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 153.
Motion No. 174
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 154.
Motion No. 175
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 155.
Motion No. 176
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 156.
Motion No. 177
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 157.
Motion No. 178
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 158.
Motion No. 179
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 159.
Motion No. 180
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 160.
Motion No. 181
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 161.
Motion No. 182
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 162.
Motion No. 183
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 163.
Motion No. 184
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 164.
Motion No. 185
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 165.
Motion No. 186
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 166.
Motion No. 187
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 167.
Motion No. 190
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 168.
Motion No. 193
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 170.
Motion No. 194
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 171.
Motion No. 195
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 172.
Motion No. 196
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 173.


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Motion No. 197

That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 174.
Motion No. 198
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 175.
Motion No. 199
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 176.
Motion No. 202
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 178.
Motion No. 203
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 179.
Motion No. 204
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 180.
Motion No. 205
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 181.
Motion No. 206
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 182.
Motion No. 207
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 183.
Motion No. 208
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 184.
Motion No. 209
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 185.
Motion No. 210
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 186.
Motion No. 211
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 187.
Motion No. 212
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 188.
Motion No. 213
That Bill C-12 be amended by deleting Clause 189.
The Deputy Speaker: The question is on Motion No. 9. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 11. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 12. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 13. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.


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And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 14. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 15. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 16. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 19. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 26. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 27. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.


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And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 28. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 29. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 30. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 31. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 32. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 33. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.


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And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 34. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 37. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 38. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 39. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 40. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 41. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.


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And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 42. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 43. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 44. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 45. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 46. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 47. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.


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And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 48. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 49. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 50. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 51. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 52. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 53. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.


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And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 54. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 55. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 56. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 57. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 58. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 59. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.


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And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 60. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 61. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 62. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 63. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 64. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 65. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.


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The next question is on Motion No. 66. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 67. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 68. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 69. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 70. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 71. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 74. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?


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Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 77. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 78. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 79. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 82. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 83. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 84. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?


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Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 85. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 86. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 87. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 88. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 89. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 90. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?


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Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 91. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 94. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 95. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 96. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 97. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 98. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?


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Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 99. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 100. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 101. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 102. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 103. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 104. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?


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Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 105. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 106. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 107. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 108. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 109. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 110. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?


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Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 114. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 115. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 116. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 117. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 118. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 119. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?


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Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 120. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 121. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 122. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 123. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 124. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 125. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:


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The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 126. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 127. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 129. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 130. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 131. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 132. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?


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Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 133. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 134. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 135. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 136. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 137. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 138. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.


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The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 139. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 140. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 141. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 142. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 143. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 144. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.


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The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 145. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 146. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 147. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 148. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 149. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 150. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.


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The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 151. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 152. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 153. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 154. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 155. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 156. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.


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The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 157. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 158. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 159. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 160. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 161. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 162. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.


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The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 163. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 164. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 165. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 166. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 167. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 168. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.


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The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 169. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 170. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 172. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 174. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 175. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 176. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.


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The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 177. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 178. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 179. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 180. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 181. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 182. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.


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The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 183. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 184. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 185. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 186. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 187. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 190. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.


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The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 193. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 194. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 195. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 196. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 197. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 198. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.


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The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 199. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 202. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 203. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 204. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 205. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 206. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.


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The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 207. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 208. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 209. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 210. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 211. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 212. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.


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The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

The next question is on Motion No. 213. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Some hon. members: No.

The Deputy Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Some hon. members: Yea.

The Deputy Speaker: All those opposed will please say nay.

Some hon. members: Nay.

The Deputy Speaker: In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

The Deputy Speaker: Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), a recorded division on the proposed motion stands deferred.

We will now proceed to the taking of the deferred divisions on Bill C-12.

Call in the members.

(1250)

[Translation]

And the division bells having rung:

The Deputy Speaker: The question is on Motion No. 1.

A vote on this motion also applies to Motion No. 3. An affirmative vote on Motion No. 1 obviates the necessity of putting the question on Motion No. 2. If motion No. 1 is negatived, Motion No. 2 will be voted on.

(The House divided on Motion No. 1, which was negatived on the following division:)

(Division No. 77)

YEAS

Members
Abbott
Ablonczy
Asselin
Axworthy (Saskatoon-Clark's Crossing)
Bachand
Bélisle
Bellehumeur
Benoit
Bernier (Gaspé)
Bridgman
Brien
Canuel
Chrétien (Frontenac)
Cummins
Duceppe
Epp
Fillion
Forseth
Frazer
Gagnon (Québec)

Godin
Gouk
Guimond
Hanger
Hanrahan
Harris
Hayes
Hill (Prince George-Peace River)
Jacob
Lalonde
Landry
Laurin
Lavigne (Beauharnois-Salaberry)
Lebel
Loubier
Marchand
Mercier
Meredith
Mills (Red Deer)
Morrison
Nunez
Penson
Picard (Drummond)
Ramsay
Rocheleau
Sauvageau
Speaker
Stinson
Strahl
Thompson
Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean)
Tremblay (Rimouski-Témiscouata)
Venne-53

NAYS

Members
Adams
Alcock
Anderson
Arseneault
Assad
Barnes
Bélair
Bélanger
Bertrand
Blondin-Andrew
Bodnar
Bonin
Boudria
Brown (Oakville-Milton)
Bryden
Byrne
Campbell
Catterall
Chamberlain
Clancy
Cohen
Collenette
Cowling
Culbert
Cullen
DeVillers
Dhaliwal
Dingwall
Dromisky
Duhamel
Easter
Eggleton
English
Finlay
Flis
Fry
Gaffney
Gagliano
Gerrard
Godfrey
Grose
Guarnieri
Harper (Churchill)
Harvard
Hubbard
Jackson
Keyes
Kirkby
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Lastewka
LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands-Canso)
Lee
Lincoln
Loney
MacAulay
MacDonald
MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton-The Sydneys)
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marleau
Martin (LaSalle-Émard)
Massé
McCormick
McGuire
McWhinney
Mifflin
Milliken
Minna
Murphy
Murray
Nault
O'Brien (Labrador)
O'Reilly
Pagtakhan
Paradis
Parrish
Payne
Peters
Pickard (Essex-Kent)
Proud
Reed
Regan
Ringuette-Maltais
Robichaud
Rock
Scott (Fredericton-York-Sunbury)
Simmons
Speller
Stewart (Brant)
Stewart (Northumberland)
Szabo
Telegdi
Thalheimer
Torsney
Valeri
Vanclief
Verran
Whelan
Wood
Young
Zed -103


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PAIRED MEMBERS

Assadourian
Bakopanos
Bergeron
Bernier (Beauce)
Bernier (Mégantic-Compton-Stanstead)
Brushett
Calder
Cannis
Caron
Chan
Crête
Dalphond-Guiral
Daviault
de Savoye
Debien
Deshaies
Dumas
Fewchuk
Graham
Gray (Windsor West/Ouest)
Guay
Hopkins
Jordan
Leblanc (Longueuil)
Lefebvre
Leroux (Richmond-Wolfe)
Leroux (Shefford)
McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest)
Ménard
Mitchell
O'Brien (London-Middlesex)
Paré
Patry
Pettigrew
Pillitteri
Pomerleau
Serré
Sheridan
St-Laurent
St. Denis
Tremblay (Rosemont)
Ur

(1255)

[English]

The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 1 lost. Therefore I declare Motion No. 3 lost.

The next question is on Motion No. 2.

Mr. Boudria: Mr. Speaker, I believe if you were to seek it you would find unanimous consent to apply the results of report stage Motion No. 1 to the motion now before the House, as well as report stage Motions Nos. 4, 5, and 8.

[Translation]

The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

[English]

[Editor's Note: See list under Division No. 77.]

The Deputy Speaker: I therefore declare Motions No. 2, 4, 5 and 8 negatived.

The next question is on Motion No. 6.

[Translation]

Mr. Boudria: Mr. Speaker, if you were to seek it I believe you would find unanimous consent for all members who voted on the previous motion, with the exception of the Minister of National Defence, to be recorded as having voted on the motion now before the House, with Liberal members voting yea.

Mr. Laurin: Mr. Speaker, the Bloc Quebecois members will vote nay on this motion.

[English]

Mr. Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members present will vote no, unless other members wish to vote otherwise.

Mr. Axworthy (Saskatoon-Clark's Crossing): Mr. Speaker, I vote yes on this motion.

Mr. Allmand: Mr. Speaker, I wish to be recorded as voting in favour of this motion.

(The House divided on Motion No. 6, which was agreed to on the following division:)

(Division No. 78)

YEAS

Members
Adams
Alcock
Allmand
Anderson
Arseneault
Assad
Axworthy (Saskatoon-Clark's Crossing)
Barnes
Bélair
Bélanger
Bertrand
Blondin-Andrew
Bodnar
Bonin
Boudria
Brown (Oakville-Milton)
Bryden
Byrne
Campbell
Catterall
Chamberlain
Clancy
Cohen
Cowling
Culbert
Cullen
DeVillers
Dhaliwal
Dingwall
Dromisky
Duhamel
Easter
Eggleton
English
Finlay
Flis
Fry
Gaffney
Gagliano
Gerrard
Godfrey
Grose
Guarnieri
Harper (Churchill)
Harvard
Hubbard
Jackson
Keyes
Kirkby
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Lastewka
LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands-Canso)
Lee
Lincoln
Loney
MacAulay
MacDonald
MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton-The Sydneys)
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marleau
Martin (LaSalle-Émard)
Massé
McCormick
McGuire
McWhinney
Mifflin
Milliken
Minna
Murphy
Murray
Nault
O'Brien (Labrador)
O'Reilly
Pagtakhan
Paradis
Parrish
Payne
Peters
Pickard (Essex-Kent)
Proud
Reed
Regan
Ringuette-Maltais
Robichaud
Rock
Scott (Fredericton-York-Sunbury)
Simmons
Speller
Stewart (Brant)
Stewart (Northumberland)
Szabo
Telegdi
Thalheimer
Torsney
Valeri
Vanclief
Verran
Whelan
Wood
Young
Zed -104

NAYS

Members
Abbott
Ablonczy
Asselin
Bachand
Bélisle
Bellehumeur


2691

Benoit
Bernier (Gaspé)
Bridgman
Brien
Canuel
Chrétien (Frontenac)
Cummins
Duceppe
Epp
Fillion
Forseth
Frazer
Gagnon (Québec)
Godin
Gouk
Guimond
Hanger
Hanrahan
Harris
Hayes
Hill (Prince George-Peace River)
Jacob
Lalonde
Landry
Laurin
Lavigne (Beauharnois-Salaberry)
Lebel
Loubier
Marchand
Mercier
Meredith
Mills (Red Deer)
Morrison
Nunez
Penson
Picard (Drummond)
Ramsay
Rocheleau
Sauvageau
Speaker
Stinson
Strahl
Thompson
Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean)
Tremblay (Rimouski-Témiscouata)
Venne-52

PAIRED MEMBERS

Assadourian
Bakopanos
Bergeron
Bernier (Beauce)
Bernier (Mégantic-Compton-Stanstead)
Brushett
Calder
Cannis
Caron
Chan
Crête
Dalphond-Guiral
Daviault
de Savoye
Debien
Deshaies
Dumas
Fewchuk
Graham
Gray (Windsor West/Ouest)
Guay
Hopkins
Jordan
Leblanc (Longueuil)
Lefebvre
Leroux (Richmond-Wolfe)
Leroux (Shefford)
McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest)
Ménard
Mitchell
O'Brien (London-Middlesex)
Paré
Patry
Pettigrew
Pillitteri
Pomerleau
Serré
Sheridan
St-Laurent
St. Denis
Tremblay (Rosemont)
Ur

(1300 )

The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 6 carried.

Mr. Boudria: Mr. Speaker, if you were to seek it, I believe you would find unanimous consent to apply the results of the vote just taken on Motion No. 6 to report stage Motions Nos. 201, 21, 23, 25, 173, 93, 219, 216, 217 and 218.

[Translation]

The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent of the House?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Mr. Boudria: Mr. Speaker, if you were to seek it I believe you would find unanimous consent for all members who voted on the previous motion to be recorded as having voted on the motion now before the House, with Liberal members voting nay.

Mr. Laurin: Mr. Speaker, the Bloc Quebecois members will vote yea on this motion, with the addition of the hon. member for Roberval who has joined us.

[English]

Mr. Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members will be voting no on this motion.

Mr. Axworthy (Saskatoon-Clark's Crossing): Mr. Speaker, I will be voting yes on this motion.

(The House divided on Motion No. 7, which was negatived on the following division:)

(Division No. 79)

YEAS

Members
Asselin
Axworthy (Saskatoon-Clark's Crossing)
Bachand
Bélisle
Bellehumeur
Bernier (Gaspé)
Brien
Canuel
Chrétien (Frontenac)
Duceppe
Fillion
Gagnon (Québec)
Gauthier
Godin
Guimond
Jacob
Lalonde
Landry
Laurin
Lavigne (Beauharnois-Salaberry)
Lebel
Loubier
Marchand
Mercier
Nunez
Picard (Drummond)
Rocheleau
Sauvageau
Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean)
Tremblay (Rimouski-Témiscouata)

NAYS

Members
Abbott
Ablonczy
Adams
Alcock
Allmand
Anderson
Arseneault
Assad
Barnes
Bélair
Bélanger
Benoit
Bertrand
Blondin-Andrew
Bodnar
Bonin
Boudria
Bridgman
Brown (Oakville-Milton)
Bryden
Byrne
Campbell
Catterall
Chamberlain
Clancy
Cohen
Cowling
Culbert
Cullen
Cummins
DeVillers
Dhaliwal
Dingwall
Dromisky
Duhamel
Easter
Eggleton
English
Epp
Finlay
Flis
Forseth
Frazer
Fry
Gaffney
Gagliano
Gerrard
Godfrey
Gouk
Grose
Guarnieri
Hanger
Hanrahan
Harper (Churchill)
Harris
Harvard
Hayes
Hill (Prince George-Peace River)
Hubbard
Jackson
Keyes
Kirkby
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Lastewka
LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands-Canso)
Lee
Lincoln
Loney
MacAulay
MacDonald
MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton-The Sydneys)
Malhi
Maloney


2692

Manley
Marleau
Martin (LaSalle-Émard)
Massé
McCormick
McGuire
McWhinney
Meredith
Mifflin
Milliken
Mills (Red Deer)
Minna
Morrison
Murphy
Murray
Nault
O'Brien (Labrador)
O'Reilly
Pagtakhan
Paradis
Parrish
Payne
Penson
Peters
Pickard (Essex-Kent)
Proud
Ramsay
Reed
Regan
Ringuette-Maltais
Robichaud
Rock
Scott (Fredericton-York-Sunbury)
Simmons
Speaker
Speller
Stewart (Brant)
Stewart (Northumberland)
Stinson
Strahl
Szabo
Telegdi
Thalheimer
Thompson
Torsney
Valeri
Vanclief
Verran
Whelan
Wood
Young
Zed-126

PAIRED MEMBERS

Assadourian
Bakopanos
Bergeron
Bernier (Beauce)
Bernier (Mégantic-Compton-Stanstead)
Brushett
Calder
Cannis
Caron
Chan
Crête
Dalphond-Guiral
Daviault
de Savoye
Debien
Deshaies
Dumas
Fewchuk
Graham
Gray (Windsor West/Ouest)
Guay
Hopkins
Jordan
Leblanc (Longueuil)
Lefebvre
Leroux (Richmond-Wolfe)
Leroux (Shefford)
McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest)
Ménard
Mitchell
O'Brien (London-Middlesex)
Paré
Patry
Pettigrew
Pillitteri
Pomerleau
Serré
Sheridan
St-Laurent
St. Denis
Tremblay (Rosemont)
Ur

The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 7 defeated.

Mr. Boudria: Mr. Speaker, if you were to seek it, I believe you would find unanimous consent to apply the vote just taken to Motions Nos. 10A, 10, 17, 20, 72, 75, 80, 111, 191 and 9.

The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent of the House?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

[Editor's Note: See list under Division No. 79.]

Mr. Allmand: Mr. Speaker, on a point of order. I want to record my vote in favour of Motions Nos. 9 and 17.

The Deputy Speaker: I declare motions Nos. 10A, 10, 17, 20, 72, 75, 80, 111, 191 and 9 lost.

(Motions Nos. 10A, 10, 20, 72, 80, 111, 191 negatived.)

(1305 )

The Deputy Speaker: The next question is on Motion. No. 18. A negative vote on Motion No. 18 requires the question to be put on Motion No. 17.

[Translation]

Mr. Boudria: Mr. Speaker, if you were to seek it I believe you would find unanimous consent for all members who voted on the previous motion to be recorded as having voted on the motion now before before the House, with Liberal members voting nay.

Mr. Laurin: Mr. Speaker, the Bloc Quebecois members will also vote nay on this motion.

[English]

Mr. Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members will be voting yes on this motion.

Mr. Axworthy (Saskatoon-Clark's Crossing): Mr. Speaker, I will be voting against this motion.

(The House divided on Motion No. 18, which was negatived on the following division:)

(Division No. 80)

YEAS

Members
Abbott
Ablonczy
Benoit
Bridgman
Cummins
Epp
Forseth
Frazer
Gouk
Hanger
Hanrahan
Harris
Hayes
Hill (Prince George-Peace River)
Meredith
Mills (Red Deer)
Morrison
Penson
Ramsay
Speaker
Stinson
Strahl
Thompson -23

NAYS

Members
Adams
Alcock
Allmand
Anderson
Arseneault
Assad
Asselin
Axworthy (Saskatoon-Clark's Crossing)
Bachand
Barnes
Bélair
Bélanger
Bélisle
Bellehumeur
Bernier (Gaspé)
Bertrand
Blondin-Andrew
Bodnar
Bonin
Boudria
Brien
Brown (Oakville-Milton)
Bryden
Byrne
Campbell
Canuel
Catterall
Chamberlain
Chrétien (Frontenac)
Clancy
Cohen
Cowling
Culbert
Cullen
DeVillers
Dhaliwal
Dingwall
Dromisky
Duceppe
Duhamel
Easter
Eggleton
English
Fillion
Finlay
Flis
Fry
Gaffney
Gagliano
Gagnon (Québec)
Gauthier
Gerrard


2693

Godfrey
Godin
Grose
Guarnieri
Guimond
Harper (Churchill)
Harvard
Hubbard
Jackson
Jacob
Keyes
Kirkby
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Lalonde
Landry
Lastewka
Laurin
Lavigne (Beauharnois-Salaberry)
Lebel
LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands-Canso)
Lee
Lincoln
Loney
Loubier
MacAulay
MacDonald
MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton-The Sydneys)
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marchand
Marleau
Martin (LaSalle-Émard)
Massé
McCormick
McGuire
McWhinney
Mercier
Mifflin
Milliken
Minna
Murphy
Murray
Nault
Nunez
O'Brien (Labrador)
O'Reilly
Pagtakhan
Paradis
Parrish
Payne
Peters
Picard (Drummond)
Pickard (Essex-Kent)
Proud
Reed
Regan
Ringuette-Maltais
Robichaud
Rocheleau
Rock
Sauvageau
Scott (Fredericton-York-Sunbury)
Simmons
Speller
Stewart (Brant)
Stewart (Northumberland)
Szabo
Telegdi
Thalheimer
Torsney
Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean)
Tremblay (Rimouski-Témiscouata)
Valeri
Vanclief
Venne
Verran
Whelan
Wood
Young
Zed-134

PAIRED MEMBERS

Assadourian
Bakopanos
Bergeron
Bernier (Beauce)
Bernier (Mégantic-Compton-Stanstead)
Brushett
Calder
Cannis
Caron
Chan
Crête
Dalphond-Guiral
Daviault
de Savoye
Debien
Deshaies
Dumas
Fewchuk
Graham
Gray (Windsor West/Ouest)
Guay
Hopkins
Jordan
Leblanc (Longueuil)
Lefebvre
Leroux (Richmond-Wolfe)
Leroux (Shefford)
McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest)
Ménard
Mitchell
O'Brien (London-Middlesex)
Paré
Patry
Pettigrew
Pillitteri
Pomerleau
Serré
Sheridan
St-Laurent
St. Denis
Tremblay (Rosemont)
Ur

The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 18 defeated.

(The House divided on Motion No. 17, which was negatived on the following division:)

(Division No. 81)

YEAS

Members
Allmand
Asselin
Axworthy (Saskatoon-Clark's Crossing)
Bachand
Bélisle
Bellehumeur
Bernier (Gaspé)
Brien
Canuel
Chrétien (Frontenac)
Duceppe
Fillion
Gagnon (Québec)
Gauthier
Godin
Guimond
Jacob
Lalonde
Landry
Laurin
Lavigne (Beauharnois-Salaberry)
Lebel
Loubier
Marchand
Mercier
Nunez
Picard (Drummond)
Rocheleau
Sauvageau
Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean)
Tremblay (Rimouski-Témiscouata)
Venne-32

NAYS

Members
Abbott
Ablonczy
Adams
Alcock
Anderson
Arseneault
Assad
Barnes
Bélair
Bélanger
Benoit
Bertrand
Blondin-Andrew
Bodnar
Bonin
Boudria
Bridgman
Brown (Oakville-Milton)
Bryden
Byrne
Campbell
Catterall
Chamberlain
Clancy
Cohen
Cowling
Culbert
Cullen
Cummins
DeVillers
Dhaliwal
Dingwall
Dromisky
Duhamel
Easter
Eggleton
English
Epp
Finlay
Flis
Forseth
Frazer
Fry
Gaffney
Gagliano
Gerrard
Godfrey
Gouk
Grose
Guarnieri
Hanger
Hanrahan
Harper (Churchill)
Harris
Harvard
Hayes
Hill (Prince George-Peace River)
Hubbard
Jackson
Keyes
Kirkby
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Lastewka
LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands-Canso)
Lee
Lincoln
Loney
MacAulay
MacDonald
MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton-The Sydneys)
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marleau
Martin (LaSalle-Émard)
Massé
McCormick
McGuire
McWhinney
Meredith
Mifflin
Milliken
Mills (Red Deer)
Minna
Morrison
Murphy
Murray
Nault
O'Brien (Labrador)
O'Reilly
Pagtakhan
Paradis
Parrish
Payne
Penson
Peters
Pickard (Essex-Kent)
Proud
Ramsay
Reed
Regan
Ringuette-Maltais
Robichaud
Rock
Scott (Fredericton-York-Sunbury)
Simmons
Speaker


2694

Speller
Stewart (Brant)
Stewart (Northumberland)
Stinson
Strahl
Szabo
Telegdi
Thalheimer
Thompson
Torsney
Valeri
Vanclief
Verran
Whelan
Wood
Young
Zed-125

PAIRED MEMBERS

Assadourian
Bakopanos
Bergeron
Bernier (Beauce)
Bernier (Mégantic-Compton-Stanstead)
Brushett
Calder
Cannis
Caron
Chan
Crête
Dalphond-Guiral
Daviault
de Savoye
Debien
Deshaies
Dumas
Fewchuk
Graham
Gray (Windsor West/Ouest)
Guay
Hopkins
Jordan
Leblanc (Longueuil)
Lefebvre
Leroux (Richmond-Wolfe)
Leroux (Shefford)
McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest)
Ménard
Mitchell
O'Brien (London-Middlesex)
Paré
Patry
Pettigrew
Pillitteri
Pomerleau
Serré
Sheridan
St-Laurent
St. Denis
Tremblay (Rosemont)
Ur

The Deputy Speaker: The next question is on Motion No. 36. A negative vote on Motion No. 36 requires the question to be put on Motion No. 35.

Mr. Boudria: Mr. Speaker, if you were to seek it I believe you would find unanimous consent that all members who voted on the previous motion be recorded as having voted on the motion now before the House, with Liberal members voting yea.

[Translation]

Mr. Laurin: Mr. Speaker, the Bloc Quebecois members will vote nay on this motion.

[English]

Mr. Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members will be voting yes on this motion.

Mr. Axworthy (Saskatoon-Clark's Crossing): I will be too, Mr. Speaker.

(The House divided on Motion No. 36, which was agreed to on the following division:)

(Division No. 82)

YEAS

Members
Abbott
Ablonczy
Adams
Alcock
Allmand
Anderson
Arseneault
Assad
Axworthy (Saskatoon-Clark's Crossing)
Barnes
Bélair
Bélanger
Benoit
Bertrand
Blondin-Andrew
Bodnar
Bonin
Boudria
Bridgman
Brown (Oakville-Milton)

Bryden
Byrne
Campbell
Catterall
Chamberlain
Clancy
Cohen
Cowling
Culbert
Cullen
Cummins
DeVillers
Dhaliwal
Dingwall
Dromisky
Duhamel
Easter
Eggleton
English
Epp
Finlay
Flis
Forseth
Frazer
Fry
Gaffney
Gagliano
Gerrard
Godfrey
Gouk
Grose
Guarnieri
Hanger
Hanrahan
Harper (Churchill)
Harris
Harvard
Hayes
Hill (Prince George-Peace River)
Hubbard
Jackson
Keyes
Kirkby
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Lastewka
LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands-Canso)
Lee
Lincoln
Loney
MacAulay
MacDonald
MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton-The Sydneys)
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marleau
Martin (LaSalle-Émard)
Massé
McCormick
McGuire
McWhinney
Meredith
Mifflin
Milliken
Mills (Red Deer)
Minna
Morrison
Murphy
Murray
Nault
O'Brien (Labrador)
O'Reilly
Pagtakhan
Paradis
Parrish
Payne
Penson
Peters
Pickard (Essex-Kent)
Proud
Ramsay
Reed
Regan
Ringuette-Maltais
Robichaud
Rock
Scott (Fredericton-York-Sunbury)
Simmons
Speaker
Speller
Stewart (Brant)
Stewart (Northumberland)
Stinson
Strahl
Szabo
Telegdi
Thalheimer
Thompson
Torsney
Valeri
Vanclief
Verran
Whelan
Wood
Young
Zed-127

NAYS

Members
Asselin
Bachand
Bélisle
Bellehumeur
Bernier (Gaspé)
Brien
Canuel
Chrétien (Frontenac)
Duceppe
Fillion
Gagnon (Québec)
Gauthier
Godin
Guimond
Jacob
Lalonde
Landry
Laurin
Lavigne (Beauharnois-Salaberry)
Lebel
Loubier
Marchand
Mercier
Nunez
Picard (Drummond)
Rocheleau
Sauvageau
Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean)
Tremblay (Rimouski-Témiscouata)
Venne-30


2695

PAIRED MEMBERS

Assadourian
Bakopanos
Bergeron
Bernier (Beauce)
Bernier (Mégantic-Compton-Stanstead)
Brushett
Calder
Cannis
Caron
Chan
Crête
Dalphond-Guiral
Daviault
de Savoye
Debien
Deshaies
Dumas
Fewchuk
Graham
Gray (Windsor West/Ouest)
Guay
Hopkins
Jordan
Leblanc (Longueuil)
Lefebvre
Leroux (Richmond-Wolfe)
Leroux (Shefford)
McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest)
Ménard
Mitchell
O'Brien (London-Middlesex)
Paré
Patry
Pettigrew
Pillitteri
Pomerleau
Serré
Sheridan
St-Laurent
St. Denis
Tremblay (Rosemont)
Ur

The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motions Nos. 36 and 35 adopted.

Mr. Boudria: Mr. Speaker, I believe you would find unanimous consent to apply the same vote to Motion No. 171, and for the benefit of my colleague, that is listed as item (u) on our informal list, and Motions Nos. 112 and 128.

The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Mr. Axworthy (Saskatoon-Clark's Crossing): Mr. Speaker, I would be in favour of those three motions.

(The House divided on Motion No. 171, which was negatived on the following division:)

(Division No. 83)

YEAS

Members
Abbott
Ablonczy
Benoit
Bridgman
Cummins
Epp
Forseth
Frazer
Gouk
Hanger
Hanrahan
Harris
Hayes
Hill (Prince George-Peace River)
Meredith
Mills (Red Deer)
Morrison
Penson
Ramsay
Speaker
Stinson
Strahl
Thompson -23

NAYS

Members
Adams
Alcock
Allmand
Anderson
Arseneault
Assad
Asselin
Axworthy (Saskatoon-Clark's Crossing)
Bachand
Barnes
Bélair
Bélanger
Bélisle
Bellehumeur

Bernier (Gaspé)
Bertrand
Blondin-Andrew
Bodnar
Bonin
Boudria
Brien
Brown (Oakville-Milton)
Bryden
Byrne
Campbell
Canuel
Catterall
Chamberlain
Chrétien (Frontenac)
Clancy
Cohen
Cowling
Culbert
Cullen
DeVillers
Dhaliwal
Dingwall
Dromisky
Duceppe
Duhamel
Easter
Eggleton
English
Fillion
Finlay
Flis
Fry
Gaffney
Gagliano
Gagnon (Québec)
Gauthier
Gerrard
Godfrey
Godin
Grose
Guarnieri
Guimond
Harper (Churchill)
Harvard
Hubbard
Jackson
Jacob
Keyes
Kirkby
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Lalonde
Landry
Lastewka
Laurin
Lavigne (Beauharnois-Salaberry)
Lebel
LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands-Canso)
Lee
Lincoln
Loney
Loubier
MacAulay
MacDonald
MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton-The Sydneys)
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marchand
Marleau
Martin (LaSalle-Émard)
Massé
McCormick
McGuire
McWhinney
Mercier
Mifflin
Milliken
Minna
Murphy
Murray
Nault
Nunez
O'Brien (Labrador)
O'Reilly
Pagtakhan
Paradis
Parrish
Payne
Peters
Picard (Drummond)
Pickard (Essex-Kent)
Proud
Reed
Regan
Ringuette-Maltais
Robichaud
Rocheleau
Rock
Sauvageau
Scott (Fredericton-York-Sunbury)
Simmons
Speller
Stewart (Brant)
Stewart (Northumberland)
Szabo
Telegdi
Thalheimer
Torsney
Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean)
Tremblay (Rimouski-Témiscouata)
Valeri
Vanclief
Venne
Verran
Whelan
Wood
Young
Zed-134

PAIRED MEMBERS

Assadourian
Bakopanos
Bergeron
Bernier (Beauce)
Bernier (Mégantic-Compton-Stanstead)
Brushett
Calder
Cannis
Caron
Chan
Crête
Dalphond-Guiral
Daviault
de Savoye
Debien
Deshaies
Dumas
Fewchuk
Graham
Gray (Windsor West/Ouest)
Guay
Hopkins


2696

Jordan
Leblanc (Longueuil)
Lefebvre
Leroux (Richmond-Wolfe)
Leroux (Shefford)
McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest)
Ménard
Mitchell
O'Brien (London-Middlesex)
Paré
Patry
Pettigrew
Pillitteri
Pomerleau
Serré
Sheridan
St-Laurent
St. Denis
Tremblay (Rosemont)
Ur

The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motions Nos. 171, 112 and 128 defeated.

The next question is on Motion No. 73. A negative vote on Motion No. 73 requires the question to be put on Motion No. 72.

(1310 )

Mr. Boudria: Mr. Speaker, if we could just return to Motion No. 36, I am seeking to apply it to other motions. In fact, I withdraw that. There is seemingly no other application. I am just considering whether Motion No. 215 is identical. I believe, Mr. Speaker, you would find unanimous consent to apply the vote on Motion No. 36 to Motion No. 215 which is the first item on the last page of our informal list.

The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

[Editor's Note: See list under Division No. 82.]

The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 215 carried.

The next question is on Motion No. 73.

[Translation]

Mr. Boudria: Mr. Speaker, if you were to seek it, I believe the House would give its unanimous consent that those members who voted on the previous motion be recorded as having voted on the motion currently before the House, with Liberal members voting no on the motion.

Mr. Laurin: Mr. Speaker, the members of the Bloc Quebecois will vote no on this motion.

[English]

Mr. Strahl: Mr. Speaker, Reform Party members will be voting yes, unless someone wants to vote otherwise.

Mr. Axworthy (Saskatoon-Clark's Crossing): Mr. Speaker, I will be voting no.

[Editor's Note: See list under Division No. 83.]

The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motion No. 73 defeated.

The next question is on Motion No. 189.

Mr. Boudria: Mr. Speaker, I believe you would find unanimous consent to apply the results of Motion No. 73 to the motion now before the House, as well as Motion No. 76 which is the first one on the next sheet of our informal list.

The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

Mr. Karygiannis: Mr. Speaker, I want my vote to reflect that of my party.

(The House divided on Motion No. 189, which was negatived on the following division:)

(Division No. 84)

YEAS

Members
Abbott
Ablonczy
Benoit
Bridgman
Cummins
Epp
Forseth
Frazer
Gouk
Hanger
Hanrahan
Harris
Hayes
Hill (Prince George-Peace River)
Meredith
Mills (Red Deer)
Morrison
Penson
Ramsay
Speaker
Stinson
Strahl
Thompson -23

NAYS

Members
Adams
Alcock
Allmand
Anderson
Arseneault
Assad
Asselin
Axworthy (Saskatoon-Clark's Crossing)
Bachand
Barnes
Bélair
Bélanger
Bélisle
Bellehumeur
Bernier (Gaspé)
Bertrand
Blondin-Andrew
Bodnar
Bonin
Boudria
Brien
Brown (Oakville-Milton)
Bryden
Byrne
Campbell
Canuel
Catterall
Chamberlain
Chrétien (Frontenac)
Clancy
Cohen
Cowling
Culbert
Cullen
DeVillers
Dhaliwal
Dingwall
Dromisky
Duceppe
Duhamel
Easter
Eggleton
English
Fillion
Finlay
Flis
Fry
Gaffney
Gagliano
Gagnon (Québec)
Gauthier
Gerrard
Godfrey
Godin
Grose
Guarnieri
Guimond
Harper (Churchill)
Harvard
Hubbard
Jackson
Jacob
Karygiannis
Keyes
Kirkby
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Lalonde
Landry
Lastewka
Laurin
Lavigne (Beauharnois-Salaberry)
Lebel
LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands-Canso)
Lee
Lincoln
Loney
Loubier
MacAulay
MacDonald
MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton-The Sydneys)
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marchand
Marleau
Martin (LaSalle-Émard)
Massé
McCormick
McGuire
McWhinney
Mercier
Mifflin
Milliken
Minna
Murphy


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Murray
Nault
Nunez
O'Brien (Labrador)
O'Reilly
Pagtakhan
Paradis
Parrish
Payne
Peters
Picard (Drummond)
Pickard (Essex-Kent)
Proud
Reed
Regan
Ringuette-Maltais
Robichaud
Rocheleau
Rock
Sauvageau
Scott (Fredericton-York-Sunbury)
Simmons
Speller
Stewart (Brant)
Stewart (Northumberland)
Szabo
Telegdi
Thalheimer
Torsney
Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean)
Tremblay (Rimouski-Témiscouata)
Valeri
Vanclief
Venne
Verran
Whelan
Wood
Young
Zed-135

PAIRED MEMBERS

Assadourian
Bakopanos
Bergeron
Bernier (Beauce)
Bernier (Mégantic-Compton-Stanstead)
Brushett
Calder
Cannis
Caron
Chan
Crête
Dalphond-Guiral
Daviault
de Savoye
Debien
Deshaies
Dumas
Fewchuk
Graham
Gray (Windsor West/Ouest)
Guay
Hopkins
Jordan
Leblanc (Longueuil)
Lefebvre
Leroux (Richmond-Wolfe)
Leroux (Shefford)
McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest)
Ménard
Mitchell
O'Brien (London-Middlesex)
Paré
Patry
Pettigrew
Pillitteri
Pomerleau
Serré
Sheridan
St-Laurent
St. Denis
Tremblay (Rosemont)
Ur

The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motions Nos. 189 and 76 defeated.

The next question is on Motion No. 81.

Mr. Boudria: Mr. Speaker, I believe you would find unanimous consent to further apply what I have just requested to Motions Nos. 81, 188 and 192 as well.

[Translation]

The Deputy Speaker: Is there unanimous consent?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

[English]

[Editor's Note: See list under Division No. 84.]

The Deputy Speaker: I declare Motions Nos. 81, 188 and 192 defeated.

(1315)

[Translation]

Hon. Douglas Young (Minister of Human Resources Development, Lib.) moved that the bill be concurred in at report stage.

[English]

Mr. Boudria: Mr. Speaker, on concurrence at report stage and second reading, I believe you would find unanimous consent that members who have just been recorded as having voted on the previous motion be now recorded as having voted on the motion now before the House, with Liberal members voting yea. We would like to add the presence of the minister of Indian affairs who will be recorded along with other Liberal members on this motion.

I use this opportunity to thank my colleagues, the whips of other respective parties, for their kind assistance in accelerating this process in allowing Parliament to function even better.

Mr. Allmand: Mr. Speaker, I do not wish to be recorded as voting in favour of this motion. Also, in listening to the different votes I must have missed something because I wanted to vote in favour of Motions Nos. 12, 15, 27, 68 and 94.

The Deputy Speaker: Can we by unanimous consent permit the member to vote as he has indicated?

Some hon. members: Agreed.

[Translation]

Mr. Laurin: Mr. Speaker, the members of the Bloc Quebecois will vote no on the last two motions.

[English]

Mr. Strahl: Mr. Speaker, members of the Reform Party will be voting no on this last motion.

Mr. Axworthy (Saskatoon-Clark's Crossing): Mr. Speaker, I will be voting no as well.

(The House divided on the motion, which was agreed to on the following division:)

(Division No. 85)

YEAS

Members
Adams
Alcock
Anderson
Arseneault
Assad
Barnes
Bélair
Bélanger
Bertrand
Blondin-Andrew
Bodnar
Bonin
Boudria
Brown (Oakville-Milton)
Bryden
Byrne
Campbell
Catterall
Chamberlain
Clancy
Cohen
Cowling
Culbert
Cullen
DeVillers
Dhaliwal
Dingwall
Dromisky
Duhamel
Easter
Eggleton
English
Finlay
Flis
Fry
Gaffney
Gagliano
Gerrard


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Godfrey
Grose
Guarnieri
Harper (Churchill)
Harvard
Hubbard
Irwin
Jackson
Karygiannis
Keyes
Kirkby
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Lastewka
LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands-Canso)
Lee
Lincoln
Loney
MacAulay
MacDonald
MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton-The Sydneys)
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marleau
Martin (LaSalle-Émard)
Massé
McCormick
McGuire
McWhinney
Mifflin
Milliken
Minna
Murphy
Murray
Nault
O'Brien (Labrador)
O'Reilly
Pagtakhan
Paradis
Parrish
Payne
Peters
Pickard (Essex-Kent)
Proud
Reed
Regan
Ringuette-Maltais
Robichaud
Rock
Scott (Fredericton-York-Sunbury)
Simmons
Speller
Stewart (Brant)
Stewart (Northumberland)
Szabo
Telegdi
Thalheimer
Torsney
Valeri
Vanclief
Verran
Whelan
Wood
Young
Zed -104

NAYS

Members
Abbott
Ablonczy
Allmand
Asselin
Axworthy (Saskatoon-Clark's Crossing)
Bachand
Bélisle
Bellehumeur
Benoit
Bernier (Gaspé)
Bridgman
Brien
Canuel
Chrétien (Frontenac)
Cummins
Duceppe
Epp
Fillion
Forseth
Frazer
Gagnon (Québec)
Gauthier
Godin
Gouk
Guimond
Hanger
Hanrahan
Harris
Hayes
Hill (Prince George-Peace River)
Jacob
Lalonde
Landry
Laurin
Lavigne (Beauharnois-Salaberry)
Lebel
Loubier
Marchand
Mercier
Meredith
Mills (Red Deer)
Morrison
Nunez
Penson
Picard (Drummond)
Ramsay
Rocheleau
Sauvageau
Speaker
Stinson
Strahl
Thompson
Tremblay (Lac-Saint-Jean)
Tremblay (Rimouski-Témiscouata)
Venne-55

PAIRED MEMBERS

Assadourian
Bakopanos
Bergeron
Bernier (Beauce)
Bernier (Mégantic-Compton-Stanstead)
Brushett
Calder
Cannis
Caron
Chan

Crête
Dalphond-Guiral
Daviault
de Savoye
Debien
Deshaies
Dumas
Fewchuk
Graham
Gray (Windsor West/Ouest)
Guay
Hopkins
Jordan
Leblanc (Longueuil)
Lefebvre
Leroux (Richmond-Wolfe)
Leroux (Shefford)
McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest)
Ménard
Mitchell
O'Brien (London-Middlesex)
Paré
Patry
Pettigrew
Pillitteri
Pomerleau
Serré
Sheridan
St-Laurent
St. Denis
Tremblay (Rosemont)
Ur

The Deputy Speaker: I declare the motion carried.

(Bill concurred in and read the second time.)

* * *

AGREEMENT ON INTERNAL TRADE IMPLEMENTATION ACT

The House resumed from April 22 consideration of the motion that Bill C-19, an act to implement the agreement on internal trade, be read the third time and passed.

(1320)

Mr. Leon E. Benoit (Vegreville, Ref.): Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to speak at third reading of Bill C-19, an act regarding the implementation of the agreement on internal trade.

In my address today I will describe to the House the impact of trade barriers on the economy and what effect these barriers have on real Canadians and their families. I will critique the agreement, its merits, its shortcomings, and I will conclude by pointing out how this agreement must be changed in order to be of real benefit to Canadians.

Interprovincial trade barriers cost Canadians jobs and money. Studies produced by the Canadian Manufacturers' Association, the Fraser Institute, the C.D. Howe Institute and others estimate interprovincial trade barriers cost Canadian businesses between $6 billion and $10 billion a year.

According to information published by the Fraser Institute in its book Provincial Trade Wars: Why the Blockade Must End, if Canadian firms were enabled to operate freely across the country, average Canadian household incomes would rise by as much $3,500 a year. While conservative estimates place this figure lower, the point still remains these barriers cost Canadians jobs and money.

Removing barriers to internal trade is an issue which is so important to me and the leader of the Reform Party that we have created a new critic area to address this important issue. We will fight for Canadians so they can have their jobs and we will fight for Canadian business so they can deduct their business with the least government and systemic interference possible. This issue is second only to debt reduction in terms of issues which must be


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dealt with to get Canadians back to work and to stop the 20 years of fall in workers' take home pay.

What is the magnitude of the internal trade barriers in Canada? The Canadian Manufacturers' Association estimates there are at least 500 trade barriers currently between provinces. It is not known exactly how much larger our internal trade market would be if goods and services could flow freely back and forth across the country, but clearly Canadian business would regain a portion of those markets currently lost to foreign countries and foreign companies.

I have not found a serious estimate of the number of jobs for Canadians this would translate into, but it would be tens of thousands, most likely hundreds of thousands.

A comparison of Canadian international trade and interprovincial trade in goods and services shows international trade to be about $160 billion per year and interprovincial trade about $146 billion a year. This comparison illustrates our interprovincial trade is only about $14 billion less than our total international trade.

Why then does the Prime Minister and his government not put the time and effort into this trade problem they do into international trade? Travelling the world may see more glamorous but does it produce jobs? Removing barriers to internal trade certainly will. According to Stephen Van Houten, president of the Canadian Manufacturers' Association, provincial trade barriers have resulted in lost sales, lost investments and lost jobs.

How do these barriers stagnate growth and limit job creation? One might think these measures are intended to ensure growth and prosperity within a province. That is the intent, but the opposite is what happens. While these artificial perimeters protect the microcosm from outside competition, they are shifting the growth of domestic industry and establishing protective markets which lead to higher consumer costs. According to the Consumers Association of Canada, some provinces pay up to 10 per cent more for local products because of internal trade barriers.

Catherine Swift, president of the Canadian Federation of Independent Business, describes the current trade in goods and services: ``A totally uncompetitive situation which means consumers pay more or pay through the nose. People are forced to pay what bloated utilities like Ontario Hydro choose to charge rather than what is the best price in the domestic market''.

(1325)

I believe I have established that interprovincial trade barriers are costing Canadians jobs and money. What do the Liberals have to say about this issue? The answer is quite a bit. The problem is that so far talk has led to little action. The Liberal government has repeatedly recognized that barriers to internal trade cost Canadians jobs and money, but it has not done anything substantial to rectify the problem.

The government made promises in the red book on this issue, promises in both throne speeches on the issue, and recognized the harm of internal trade barriers in the finance committee's prebudget consultation report, but to date little has been done.

I remind the Liberal government of some of its own words in relation to internal trade. Page 22 of the infamous red book, the book of broken promises, states: ``A Liberal government will be committed to the elimination of interprovincial trade barriers within Canada and will address this issue urgently''.

Neville Nankivell writes in his Financial Post article on February 18: ``The legislation on freer domestic trade was supposed to have high priority for the Liberal government's economic policy. It had cleared the committee stage and was backed with some amendments, but passage was sidetracked in December by the need to push through the Prime Minister's controversial unity package''.

It is obvious the government is more concerned with perpetuating Quebec appeasement than it is about improving economic conditions for all Canadians, including Quebecers, Quebecers who are looking for jobs.

In the throne speech of 1994 the Liberals promised to reduce overlap and duplication between provinces and the federal government and to work with the provinces to eliminate internal trade barriers.

Before the federal government brought down the budget this year, the finance committee urged the government to take action on interprovincial trade barriers in its prebudget consultation report. The committee report described the current interprovincial trade situation in Canada as very much balkanized.

The report went on to state that in some cases it easier to do businesses in other provinces by going through a U.S. corporation that can use the provisions of the North American Free Trade Agreement than by doing business directly.

Within the same report the committee urged government to continue to seek further action with provinces on reducing interprovincial trade barriers: ``Trade within Canada must be placed on an equal footing with Canada-U.S. trade in terms of the free flow of goods and services. We can no longer afford the extravagance of favouring foreign competition over trade among Canadians and discriminating against fellow Canadians''.

It is shameful that our governments, both federal and provincial, have forced Canadian companies to fight an uphill battle against


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their foreign counterparts. We should be ensuring more than just an equal footing with the United States and other countries.

If barriers to interprovincial trade were eliminated we would be doing more than placing Canadian companies on an equal footing internationally. We would be giving them the competitive advantage they want and deserve. Unfortunately neither the federal nor the provincial governments seem prepared to work with Canadians to reduce trade barriers.

The agreement on internal trade is the product of executive decision making. Twelve cabinet ministers from the respective provinces and territories along with the federal Minister of Industry hammered out a deal they could all live with, but what about business?

The Canada West Foundation released a paper in June, 1994 entitled ``Internal Trade and Economic Co-operation: Down to the Wire on an Internal Trade Agreement''. This paper addresses provincial interests and attitudes prior to the agreement negotiations.

(1330 )

Before the agreement was put in place, the Saskatchewan government stated: ``Despite certain irritants, most interprovincial trade moves freely now. Canada's economic union works well for the most part. Our real economic problems in Canada do not come from the current structure of our internal market''.

This statement clearly contradicts the concerns of independent Saskatchewan business which was surveyed by the Canadian Federation of Independent Business and published in its June 1994 paper entitled ``Barriers to Growth''.

In Saskatchewan, 93 per cent of respondents were in favour of the removal of trade barriers. Of the respondents who were affected by trade barriers, over 60 per cent were affected negatively, the key problem areas being provincial regulations and federal subsidies. Both resulted in higher costs and restricted growth. How can the business community feel assured that its interests are being addressed when there is such a lack of understanding by provincial governments?

What should the government do to bring down the barriers to trade and rectify the situation that Canadians currently face? It could start by acknowledging that previous Liberal and Conservative governments had an obligation to all Canadians under the British North America Act to ensure that trade barriers were never established in the first place.

The British North America Act, 1867 clearly states under section 121 that all articles of growth, produce or manufacture of any one of the provinces shall, from and after the union be admitted free into each of the provinces. Section 91(2) states that the legislative authority of Parliament extends to the regulation of trade and commerce. The people of Canada have paid a serious price for government inaction and the abdication of responsibility in this area.

I will take some time now to speak about certain parts of the internal agreement on trade that this bill implements. The agreement on internal trade is designed in principle to break down barriers in order to establish internal free trade. In an attempt to be all things to all provinces, impediments to this objective have been erected. One such impediment is article 404 regarding legitimate objectives.

A legitimate objective is an exemption from the agreement regarding (a) public security and safety; (b), public order; (c) protection of human, animal or plant life or health; (d) protection of the environment; (e) consumer protection; (f) protection of health, safety and well-being of workers; and (g) affirmative action programs for disadvantaged groups.

What does it mean? It means that any province can use the above stated criteria as a means of establishing the protection of its domestic sectors from competition where it can be demonstrated that (a) the purpose of the measure is to achieve a legitimate objective; (b) the measure does not operate to impair unduly access to persons, goods, services or investment of a party that meet the legitimate objectives; (c) the measure is not more trade restrictive than necessary to achieve that legitimate objective; and (d) the measure does not create a disguised reduction on trade.

When that is put together and one thinks about the legitimate objectives that are allowed, one can clearly see that provincial governments can protect pretty well whatever they want under this legislation. For all intents and purposes, these provisions can be used in nearly every sector involved in interprovincial trade. How is this going to break down barriers? The answer is that it will not.

It reminds me of the Ukrainian matrioska dolls. Every time one is opened, there is another one. It is a very frustrating process getting to the prize.

At a recent round table discussion hosted by the Certified General Accountants of Canada, I asked senior government officials involved in this agreement if they could identify a trade barrier that could not be considered a legitimate objective. They were unable to identify a clear example of a trade barrier that could not be at least considered as a legitimate objective. This spells out to me that there are very few instances where establishing a legitimate objective exemption is not possible.

(1335 )

It is obvious from the ample access to exemptions that disputes between parties are bound to arise. Included in each sector is a series of procedures intended to resolve disputes between the parties, except in the following sectors: energy, agriculture and the ``MASH'' sector, which is made up of municipalities, academic


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institutions, schools and hospitals. These areas of exclusion are another story for another time.

When a dispute arises, the parties are to enter into consultations in order to attempt to rectify the problem. If that is not successful, then the parties apply for a request for consultations between governments. At this level any party who has a vested interest in the outcome of the consultations is able to participate.

If that procedure is unsuccessful, then the issue is brought to the committee. That body is comprised of ministers from the 13 signing governments that were responsible for drawing up this agreement. If the procedure is unsuccessful, then the parties may submit a written request for a panel of experts to preside over their dispute. The panel is comprised of five individuals chosen from a roster of 65 experts: that is, five appointed panellists from each government body. From this roster each party shall select two panellists who shall, in turn, elect the chair.

Will this dispute settlement mechanism work? We do not know. According to Stephen Van Houten, president of the Canadian Manufacturers' Association, the agreement on internal trade is highly bureaucratic. There is no binding enforcement measure. There is little chance of a successful outcome for aggrieved businesses. There are no awards for damages. There is no right of action without the consent of the attorney general. Decisions to withhold consent need to be explained or reviewed. In short, there is no effective dispute settlement mechanism.

The dispute settlement mechanism consists of two avenues of recourse: a government to government resolution process and the individual to government process. The second process is a positive addition which needs to be enhanced in order to heighten the access of individuals to the panel.

Currently individuals are required to be represented by their respective party. This constitutes either a provincial government or the federal government, depending on the jurisdiction in question. The individual must be able to convince that government to take up the cause for them. It seems to me that most Canadians do not feel comfortable in relying on a government bureaucracy to go to bat for them.

To summarize the dispute settlement mechanism, the emphasis of this form of settlement is on consultation and mediation between governments. If this consultation fails, the disputing parties are to resort to an ad hoc panel of appointed experts. There is no binding enforcement of the process through the awarding of damages, an injunction or some other form of penalty. The mechanism does, however, provide for private parties to launch a complaint against governments and for public consumption of panel proceedings.

The decisions of these panels are not binding. They serve as recommendations. The only means of enforcement available under the agreement is through public humiliation and public pressure. If the party refuses to comply with the panel recommendation their non-compliance is made public by the internal trade secretariat. This remains on the committee agenda for the period of one year. If at the end of that year the party has yet to comply, retaliatory action may be pursued.

Will this dispute settlement mechanism process work? I say that we should give it a chance. We should give it a try. However, it seems highly unlikely because retaliation will often cost less than the actions in question.

For the reasons I have addressed today and for the many others which I do not have time to address, I cannot support Bill C-19. The bill implements the agreement on internal trade which is flawed and incomplete. The government says it will fix the legislation in the future. The lack of action is costing Canadians now. The government often preaches that it is interested in Canadians having jobs, yet it refuses to act quickly to fix a problem which can be fixed if the proper commitment is there.

(1340 )

This agreement does not fulfil the need. It serves as an ideal or a goal which may some day be attained. The energy, the MASH, and agriculture sectors of the agreement have yet to be dealt with at all. The list of provincial exemptions is growing by leaps and bounds. The 13 governments need to get together again to construct an agreement which eliminates unreasonable protections for each of the governments' special interests.

I have described to the House the important role internal trade plays in the lives of Canadians. I have described a few of the shortcomings of this agreement: its lack of enforceability, credibility and accessibility. I have explained how to bring about change to make the agreement effective and accountable.

The agreement falls short of its objective. We have been encouraged to support the bill as a step in the right direction. We have been promised that the best is yet to come. This may be true. For the sake of Canadian jobs and business, I hope that it is. Unfortunately, the Liberal government has fallen short on its promises before. The fact that it has missed numerous deadlines set out in this agreement speaks for itself.

I want internal trade barriers removed. Canadian business wants internal trade barriers removed. Canadians looking for jobs want these barriers removed. This government and provincial governments say that they want internal trade barriers removed. Therefore, I say to the Liberal government: Do it and do it now.


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[Translation]

Mr. Yves Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières, BQ): Mr. Speaker, it is with great pleasure that I join my colleagues today in speaking to Bill C-19, an act to implement the agreement on internal trade in Canada.

I am proud to participate in this debate, as this is a very important legislation, however arid and technical it may be. The bill affirms the principle, with which we agree, that internal trade should be liberalized as much as possible and that any kind of tariff barrier that exists should be removed as much as possible.

I must say that it was about time that Canada, as a political and economical entity, and that Canadians come to an agreement because it was becoming increasing obvious that Canada was getting along better with its neighbours than with its own provinces. Canada successfully negotiated a free trade agreement with the U.S. and, later, NAFTA, while it was having a great deal of trouble coming to an agreement on interprovincial tariff barriers.

We agree with the principle of the bill. Especially since, as you probably recall, there was a huge irritant in that clause 9 used to give the federal government enormous powers that it had more or less assumed. Without consulting anybody, at a meeting held in western Canada, the federal government announced its intention to make all legitimate efforts to persuade a province whose attitude is deemed less co-operative than that of another.

At the time, under clause 9, the government had given itself sweeping, excessive, disproportionate powers. As you probably recall, this prompted the then premier of Quebec, Jacques Parizeau, to describe this clause in particular and the bill as a whole, since it all hinged on clause 9, as ``trade war measures taken by Canada against Quebec's government in particular''.

(1345)

Mr. Paillé, the then Quebec Minister of Industry, Commerce and Technology, made the appropriate representations to his federal counterpart, asking him to exercise moderation and see to it that clause 9 and federal powers in this area be cut down to reasonable proportions instead of being so ridiculously excessive. If I am not mistaken, that is how the Quebec minister described the attitude of the federal government, which was taking advantage of the situation to increase its powers.

As for us, we condemned as strongly as possible, both in the industry committee-of which I was then vice-chairman-and here in this House, the federal government's tendency to give itself inordinate powers. I do not want to brag but we succeeded at the time in talking some sense into the government and making it understand that the extent and ambiguous nature of the powers it was giving itself did not meet a real need and were out of line with what Canadians then expected in this matter.

We now have a clause 9 in which federal powers are more restricted, more reasonable, and in which all the parties, including the Quebec government, agree that an arbitrator is indeed needed in this area, thus giving the federal government some legitimate, consistent powers.

Even if we agree with the bill in its present form, there are still two provisions that we are deploring but which have been maintained despite the representations made and the amendments put forward by the official opposition.

The first of the two provisions we deplore is, again, clause 9, which provides that ``pursuant to Article 1710 of the Agreement, the Governor in Council-that is to say, the cabinet-may, by order'' and so on. This means that, in any tense situation or dispute between any two parties in Canada, the cabinet gives itself the right to settle the matter by issuing a direct order without going through the House. On the sly.

We would have liked-we even moved an amendment to this end, but it was unfortunately rejected by the government-the representatives of the 10 provinces and 2 territories in Canada that signed the agreement who sit in the House of Commons to be able to participate in the debate, either on behalf of the defendant or on behalf of the plaintiff, to publicly present the arguments of each party in the public interest and for historical purposes so that, at the end of the day, there is a debate before the federal government can come down with a sledgehammer or with sanctions, as it is now entitled to do.

We would have liked a debate to be held so that the elected representatives of the two parties involved-let us imagine, for example, that there is a dispute between Alberta and British Columbia-who sit in the House of Commons at the same time can participate in the debate and perhaps have some influence or ultimately put forward proposals. The dispute could then be settled in the best way possible and not by order, not on the sly, not in an arbitrary manner, as suggested by the current formula favoured by the government in this very important matter.

(1350)

It must be understood that we are talking about a recourse against an injuring party. Traditionally, there has been a manpower mobility problem here, at the Quebec-Ottawa border, since workers from one side of the river could not work on the other side, and vice versa. These are sensitive issues.

The more discussions there are, the greater the chances of finding the most appropriate solution. Resorting to orders in council and acting on the sly or arbitrarily will certainly not improve the chances of finding the fairest possible solution.


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We generally support the bill, but we are also disappointed with clause 19, the wording of which is very expeditious. It reads as follows:

19. Part III of the Motor Vehicle Transport Act, 1987 is repealed.
This may be a short sentence, but it has enormous consequences for a group of Quebec workers who made a lot of representations. These workers appeared before the industry committee to give their point of view. They also contacted the offices of the transport and industry ministers. Unfortunately, their efforts were in vain. I am referring to Quebec's bulk hauling truckers.

After a long struggle, they managed to get a law finally passed in Quebec to regulate bulk transport. The province did a good job and things have been going smoothly in that industry for many years now. This is quite an improvement given the heated confrontations that took place before, including in the streets of Quebec City at one time, to develop public awareness regarding the issue of bulk transportation.

With the repeal of Part III of the Motor Vehicle Transport Act of 1987, there will now be two jurisdictions in the same sector of economic activity. Currently, bulk transport permits are issued by the Government of Quebec and conditions are quite strict. This is why things are now quiet in that sector.

Part III of the Motor Vehicle Transport Act, 1987 being repealed, Quebec will now have another type of permit coming out of the woodwork. In other words, some people will have a federal bulk hauling permit without being subject to Quebec regulations.

What is worrying some people, and justifiably so, is that there will be two types of shipper, with two types of permit, federal or Quebec. For your information, the Quebec permit is subject to very stringent regulations, and it has been eminently satisfactory to everyone since its inauguration several years ago. It suits truckers because it has restored tranquility, whereas from now on there can be people who are federally licensed and not subject to Quebec regulations. There is a huge risk of anarchy, because truckers subject to the Quebec regulations will be competing with others who are not.

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We have, however-the trucking companies even more than ourselves-tried to make the government, the industry and transport ministers, see reason on this. The Minister of Health was not involved in this debate unfortunately. He would no doubt have understood the situation, judging by the openmindedness we have seen in him.

Unfortunately, we had to settle for dealing with the industry minister, the same one as today, as well as with the former Minister of Transport. These negotiations were fruitless and the bulk haulers will now have to live with this legislation, which-and we are only too pleased to repeat this again and again-will jeopardize the peace there has been until now in this sector.

There is a risk of anarchy, because there will be two types of operator: the ones subject to the unstructured and unregulated federal law and the ones with a permit from the Government of Quebec and covered by Quebec regulations, which to date have proven their worth. It most unfortunate once again that the government was not more open to representations from the official opposition on this.

We support this bill, because we sovereignists feel it confirms the existence of and acknowledges the need for good economic relations and the future need for a partnership between the economic entities of Quebec and Canada, after sovereignty is achieved.

The ties are so close, on this continent, between the economies of Quebec and Canada that it would make no sense not to equip ourselves to recognize the importance of these ties, first, and to make our economies competitive with the foreign economies we trade with and the strong economies challenging us, second.

If I may, Mr. Speaker, I will continue later on. I will try to show the superficiality of this coast to coast agreement. It does not take long once you have to consider the interest of this entire economic territory for you to run out of breath and it leads to policies like the one just proposed by the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans on the fee structure of coast guard services. With this policy, there is no hesitation dividing Canada into three and setting fees arbitrarily without basis or consultation of the parties involved.

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