Joëlle Paquette opened the second meeting of the Sub-Committee by welcoming everyone and inviting participants to introduce themselves. Joëlle provided an update on Sub-Committee membership, including participation by Shared Services Canada, Treasury Board and the Department of National Defence (for commodity grouping work) at later dates if needed. Joëlle passed the meeting over to the Chair of the Sub-Committee, Martin Demers.
The Chair shared information from Members about the three main issues they recommended for the focus of the sub-committee. Issues included
Joëlle Paquette informed Sub-committee Members that a review of commodity groupings is due and asked about their preferred level of engagement. Members were provided with charts of the existing groupings and invited to submit their comments to Martin Demers, including what to include or exclude from the review. Industry Members noted that they would have to consult with their memberships before providing input and that this might take some time.
Information and Technology Association of Canada (ITAC) informed the Sub-committee that IT changes rapidly, that more services are being bundled and that these bundles do not fit the traditional mold of commodity groupings as they fit into more than one group. There was a suggestion about perhaps formalizing a formula when more than one grouping is used.
There was some discussion about professional services being excluded from the groupings and industry Members commented that many things were not included in the current commodity groupings. They suggested a more comprehensive list. Industry Members were invited to suggest groupings that their memberships want to include. Industry Members agreed to consult with their memberships. The committee was informed that limiting contractor’s liability was not always necessary and that many contracts continued to be silent on the subject, which means that a court would decide level of liability in the event of a loss.
Joëlle Paquette reported that a report is due to Treasury Board by March 2015, and suggested that Industry Members inform us about the reasonableness of timelines that will be put into the Action Plan.
Martin Demers provided a presentation to the Sub-Committee about the risk management process and the different tools that are used, including
The Chair provided Members with a document explaining the Limitation of Liability Risk Assessment and requested that they provide feedback at a later date.
There was some discussion about the relationship between the limitation of liability and insurance and how the Acquisitions Branch (AB) deals with modern, complex insurance issues. Members were informed that AB has a Standings Offer with a firm that provides expert information about complex issues when needed.
The Sub-committee agreed to keep the focus on limitation of liability, leaving other issues such as costing to the Supplier Advisory Committee (SAC) and potential new sub-committee to be formed.
Office of Small and Medium Enterprises (OSME) representatives agreed to inform the SAC of the Sub-committee’s Action Plan and approach.