Shaena Lambert: I do write all three, though recently novel writing
seems to have taken over. Since finishing Radiance I have begun a
new novel, which at present is quite amorphous. Getting inside that
world seems to take up all my writing time. Novels have a tendency to
spread, I think, and take up all available space – like big animals.
TDR: How do you experience the relationship between memory and
fictional narrative?
SL: Key memories from my childhood do seem to end up laced into my
fiction, but usually in altered form. Riverside Meadows, the Long Island
suburb where much of Radiance takes place, came partly from
research, but also from memories of the Ottawa suburb I lived in until I
was five. There was the same marsh at the end of a dirt road. I even
threw in the drainage pipe under the street, which kids used to crawl
through, and the IGA grocery store my mother used to trek to, across
several large fields. I turned that into "Strickland’s
Groceries" out on the Jericho turnpike.
In my short stories I often start with a little snippet of something
I remember – either something that happened to me, or a story I might
have heard, and then I develop it.
TDR: This past Easter marked the 90th anniversary of Canada's
involvement in the Battle at Vimy Ridge. How do you feel about
Canada's current relationship/involvement in war? Why did you
choose to write about the events of and aftermath of Hiroshima from
the perspective of this novel?
SL: I guess I felt gripped by the idea early on – the idea of a
Hiroshima survivor and the relationship she has with a conventional
housewife, and the strange shadows the a-bomb survivor casts over a
seemingly ordinary suburb. It was one of those ideas that wouldn’t let
me go, though it took me years to get it into its final form, and it
changed a lot as I wrote the novel. Exploring the strangeness of
radiation was part of that for me. How it was such a new, potent force.
People in the early Fifties were just beginning to develop a cultural
relationship to it – part horror at what had been unleashed, part
fascination.
TDR: How does your history as a peace activist inform your
perspective within Radiance and in your writing practice?
SL: I came into adulthood in a world where the superpowers owned
50,000 nuclear missiles. Words like ‘mega-death’ and ‘over-kill’
were routinely bandied around, describing the mind-boggling surplus of
weapons. I still remember how I felt, joining the peace movement –as
though I’d stepped onto a geyser of bright liquid. (I gave that
feeling to Daisy, one of my characters, when she decides to join the
Hiroshima Project.) It can feel wonderful to take action on a global
issue after worrying about it, alone.
Later, when I started writing fiction, I disliked the idea of writing
politically – having a political agenda seems antithetical to good
fiction. Still, with Radiance and The Falling Woman,
global issues have crept in, either as background or as subject matter.
And I guess this is natural, as people do end up writing about what
concerns them most. I just think it is important, when writing fiction,
not to be grinding an axe.
TDR: Have you ever been to Japan?
SL: Yes – I went there to research Radiance. My brother was
living there, with his family, working for the Department of Foreign
Affairs. So he was able to show me around and arrange for a home stay
family to look after us in Hiroshima.
TDR: Could you tell me about your memories of Hiroshima and
Nagasaki? Do you remember how you first learned about these
events?
SL: I heard about the a-bomb when I was in grade 3. This was in the
late Sixties. I came home and asked my mother about it, hoping she’d
say it wasn’t true. But she got a certain look in her face, the same
look she’d get when I asked about other dangerous topics. (Why my aunt
and her husband slept in two beds, for instance). She said: "Yes,
it’s true, there was a massive bomb – and it was dropped on
Hiroshima. But you’ve got to remember, it ended the war." And she
told me about being a little girl on the day the bomb was dropped -- and
how her parents, who had had their own share of persecution during the
war (her father was a German immigrant in small-town BC) had hugged and
cried when they heard the news, because the war was finally over.
TDR: I photographed an interview once between Douglas Coupland and
Bruce Mau wherein Mau asked Coupland to discuss the issue of
"history". Coupland's response related his
experience of growing up on the west coast and in
Vancouver (a relatively "young" city) to his
relationship to history as an artist and writer. It didn't make
him contemptuous of history, however left him with the feeling that
history was best considered an "art supply".
How do you feel about his statement?
SL: History is an art supply – it’s true. The biggest and
most remarkable one I can think of. But calling it an art supply makes
it sound a bit like a fridge, doesn’t it? "I went to the art
supply and pulled out my Great War six pack." So I think while we
do go to history for inspiration, we also have to honour it, live within
it and do our best to it right. Not just consume it.
TDR: What is the role of history within your work?
SL: The past has one advantage over the present: it’s over -- which
gives it a satisfying completeness. So it’s easier to study – or at
least it feels easier to study.
Early on in Radiance, the Head of the Hiroshima Project gives
a speech about how the people gathered that night are staring into the
dark unknown, possibly able – if they try hard enough – to shed
light into the abyss, to change history. I enjoyed playing with this
idea – that people then, as now, were trying to make things better, to
change history. Then to look at what intervened, to complicate their
good intentions.
TDR: What kinds of challenges do you face when re creating and/or
fictionalizing a "real" historical event?
SL: Radiance did grow out of a ‘real life’ event – the
arrival of 25 Hiroshima survivors in New York, in 1955, to have
reconstructive surgery on their faces. My challenge was to draw on this
material for plausibility and to ground the story, but not to let it
dominate how I created my own plot. So I narrowed my focus from 25 girls
to just one: Keiko. I was inspired by the real life events, but – I
hope – not too constrained by them.
TDR: Could you talk to me a little about how "secrets"
or "undisclosed" information (personal and otherwise) function
within the novel?
SL: Keeping a secret, nurturing a secret, is a key part of the
creative process for me. I didn’t tell anybody I was writing Radiance
until I’d been at it for about a year. Even my agent and editor didn’t
know at first. And perhaps because I was so involved in keeping my own
secret, the idea of ‘secrecy versus telling’ did end up becoming a
theme in Radiance. Everybody wants Keiko to be ‘the perfect
atomic spokesperson,’ telling and re-telling her story of the day the
bomb fell. But she finds a way to sneak out from under their insistence.
She gets free. Or at least that’s the most hopeful way you can read
the story.
TDR: Who do you identify with most in this novel?
SL: That’s a hard question to answer. I think I identify with both
Keiko and Daisy. At first I found Keiko difficult to understand, to
write my way into. But by the end of the process I was very fond of her.
She’s secretive (like me) and she’s a trickster and a thief. Her
dark side comforted me, perhaps because she was so determined to
preserve it. And Daisy is the protagonist of the novel: a woman who
longs to be a mother, and who finds her longings thwarted. She wants to
be good – such a simple desire – but so hard to accomplish.
TDR: Your character Keiko becomes a confidant to a number of
diverse individuals and is often subject to their stories of intense
suffering. Do you have a similar experience as a
writer? Do you ever find yourself in a similar
role?
SL: Not so much as a confessor. Maybe more as a conduit. As a writer,
I love being part of the tide of gossip and connection that I get from
listening to people’s lives unfolding. There’s a moment -- say when
a friend calls, or when my mother is on the telephone and starts to tell
me something interesting -- when I begin to feel a dark sort of
satisfaction, of reconnection. "Okay," I think – "here
comes something real." And out comes the story of so-and-so’s
affair, or somebody’s fight with their sister, or a child’s peculiar
behaviour…all of which ends up being interesting not only to look at,
but also to dissect. The dissection is a large part of the pleasure!