TDR
Interview: Michele Adams
Michele
Adams is a writer, teacher and script editor whose stories have been
dramatized on radio and published in journals such as Canadian
Fiction and The Fiddlehead. Her script Beachbound is
upcoming on CBC television and she is on the cusp of finishing her first
novel. Her first collection of short stories, Bright Objects of
Desire, was recently published by Biblioasis.
In Bright Objects, Adams
navigates the breach between curiosity and trespassing in a world that
is at once achingly lonely and fiercely private. She explores the broad
spectrum of desires born in this space: a father’s longing for a lost
child; a woman’s wish to redeem her bully; the class politics of a
grocery store flirtation; the terrifying magnetism of an extramarital
crush; a teenager’s sexual awakening and her swift retreat to the
familiar world of childhood. Instinct and convention collide at times,
as Adams’ characters become closer, hearts racing, to the objects of
their desire.
Interview by Anne Borden (March 2006)
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How did you get your start as a writer?
When I was a little kid, six, seven
years old, I wrote something that was like a prose poem, called
"The Falls." It had all these present participles at the
beginning of it: "sparkling," "shimmering." And my
parents were very impressed. Someone came to our house and my parents
pulled this out, and they were like showing it to this total stranger.
And I’m sure he thought, "Oh my God, this is idiotic," but
he was like, "Oh, that’s wonderful!" Maybe this is why I
started writing, actually! Writing is kind of a shy-person thing. It’s
a way of getting attention and yet you don’t have to actually stand up
and do a little dance…
Are your parents still pulling out your
manuscripts and showing them to people?
I hope not!
What do they think of your work?
Well, they’re very supportive. But I’m
not one of those people who… I’m a teacher and I actually discourage
my students from running all of their work by their closest friends and
their mom and dad and brother and sister because I tend to think that’s
inhibiting.
I think it’s very important,
particularly for a writer starting out, to get a real sense of his or
her own voice and get a strength to that. If you constantly workshop
everything that you do through all of your closest relations you just
tend to censor your material. When you’re praised and you get positive
responses you want to do more of that, and when you get a negative
response you want to stop. I think particularly when you’re starting
out, you need to do some work in isolation.
What you’re saying is so different
from what many writing teachers have to say: they’re always
encouraging people to share their work, share their work…
Well, each person that looks at your
work will have a take. And you can get into a bad spot where you just
listen to each voice and keep changing and keep listening and changing
and listening and changing, until your work has no true core anymore.
What kind of feedback do you recommend
for a writer who is just starting out?
I think certain kinds of writing
classes can be very good as long as you have a good facilitator The only
problem with a writing workshop environment is that sometimes you can
get a strong and negative personality who can have their own agenda and
that can be kind of damaging to a young writer. But if you have enough
people there, and you have a facilitator who balances things, that can
be very helpful.
The thing is, writing is really pretty
solitary. You have to be the kind of person who wants to and actually
enjoys writing. Writing is something that you do, basically, by
yourself.
In terms of your own writing, how do
you bounce your work off of people? Or do you just send it out cold?
For the most part, I send it out cold.
But I was in the Booming Ground Writers Workshop [University of British
Columbia] a couple of years ago and found it wonderfully empowering.
One person in the group,… it was
quite fascinating actually,… he was attending like, 18 residential
workshops over the summer. He was going to write an article about it.
His name was David Tippet and he spent about four or five months at all
these residential workshops. For me, I think that would actually kill
me. I don’t think I could stand that. But he sounded very stimulated!
Stimulated! As a writer or as a people
watcher?
He said as a writer. He was a
very serious writer and his work was really interesting. He was
intrigued by comparing and contrasting how different workshops worked.
That’s a good idea for a book.
Yeah, that’s what I thought. Or, a
hilarious movie, like Waiting for Guffman or something. Although
it’s almost too ripe for satire.
That’s for sure.
You’re close to finishing your
first novel. And is there another in the works, too?
Yes. I’m working on two different
novel manuscripts. One I’m quite advanced on… it’s supposed to be
funny, a lighter piece in a goofy diary format.
What I often find with my writing is I
start off with something that I think is an amusing idea, and then as I
work on it, it gets incredibly depressing. As I work on it more, it
often comes back around to being what I think is more entertaining. What
I think is that everything really is both. So it’s not surprising that
it moves through these cycles and these modes.
This makes me think of your story
"Op Art Bikini," which moves through a similar cycle through
the course of the narrative.
"Op Art Bikini" is kind
of a backwards coming of age story. The girl goes forward towards
something but her idea of what she’s seeking is actually quite
abstract and childlike… she doesn’t really know what she’s going
after. She can’t really know what she’s going after until she gets
right into the middle of it, and then it’s too much and she pulls back
from it. But she comes back into a different kind of child self. She has
moved forward and she’s empowered in a way by the whole process.
In "Op Art Bikini," and in
several of your other works, adolescent sexuality figures heavily. How
do your audiences respond to this content?
The stories that people seem to like
the best are the adolescent ones. They have always been easy to sell and
when I’ve given readings people have been very responsive to them. The
whole coming of age thing is relatively easy for an audience to connect
to. We’ve all experienced childhood and this sense of surprise as the
body changes and our consciousness changes, as we start being pushed to
reach out for people in a different way. It’s so profound and it’s
also so universal.
But the thing about the sexual
[content] is, I don’t think of my work that way. When I was at the
Booming Ground workshop, it was funny because me and one of the other
students were identified as the "dirty writers"! It’s so
strange because I can also be kind of prudish. Like when I’m reading
out loud, I’ll vet my stories in advance to make sure there are no bad
words in them!
Several stories in Bright Objects,
like your screenplay Beachbound, are centred around cottaging.
What’s the inspiration for the setting?
Are you in Toronto? Do you know where
Sauble Beach is?
Yeah, totally.
Our family used to go there and that
landscape really got imprinted on my mind.
Beachbound
will soon air on CBC, what was it like seeing your work developed
visually?
With Beachbound, a lot of the
story material was coming from that same place as "Op Art
Bikini." That made it particularly weird because it took all this
stuff out of my head and splashed it up on a big screen with all these
saturated images of beaches, bright sunlight and blue water. Even though
I should have been totally prepared for it, I found it somewhat
startling. … Beautiful at the same time.
Let’s talk about Lady S., your
screenplay adaptation of the Jane Austen novel, Lady
Susan.
The view that I take, and that a lot of
critics take, is that Lady Susan is Jane Austen’s first
"adult work". And on the surface, it’s so different from her
other novels, but deep down it deals with the same concerns about who a
woman is. It has a really "old" protagonist: she’s 36 and
she’s very "bad," sexually experienced, she’s been married
and has got an adult daughter who she’s trying to marry off…. She’s
really struggling all the time to survive because she’s widowed and
she’s lost her reputation, but she doesn’t want to do the obvious
thing, to trade on her beauty and charm to find a wealthy old guy to
marry her and give her some security. I find her very strong, almost
martial; she just doesn’t want to do that, even though that’s the
obvious thing for her to do.
It’s also intriguing because I see
Jane Austen herself, at that age, is just coming to grips with the
limitations that her society is placing on her. If you look at Austen’s
juvenile writing, it’s so incredibly spirited and kind of crazy. The
energy, including sexual energy that’s in the work: people stealing
people’s fiancés and breaking up marriages… stealing food and just,
stealing all kinds of stuff and getting into boats and making war on
people… it’s so different from her adult work.
But if you think of Eleanor: she’s
that same kind of person deep down. She’s full of volcanic passions,
but it’s held in total abeyance. This is what she and Jane Austen have
learned about the world they lived in. There are ways to try to make
your best deal. But exploding with your emotional demands is not the
best way to make your deal.
Where is Lady S. at, in terms of
development and production?
It was under option for five years to a
fairly big Canadian production company, but that company got into some
financial problems and the option came to an end. So now I’m looking
for another company. A period piece like that is so expensive to make,
and it has to be done beautifully. It can’t be done in thrift-store
mode. It would have to be a co-production, and there would have to be
millions of dollar to do it. But, I’m hopeful! I think it will happen.
What are you reading right now?
I just finished John Updike’s story
"My Father’s Tears" in the New Yorker. I love his
rich, beautiful prose, so I’m always happy to see one of his stories
pop up in the New Yorker. I’m quite enamoured of fiction as a
form.
Do you prefer fiction?
I wouldn’t say that necessarily, but
I think fiction is a really good form because, since it’s fiction and
it’s not you, you have that sense of privacy and distance from it. It
allows you to feel free to work with it.
You know, even if you are trying to
write a memoir you’re always being selective and it is just your
memory, which is full of holes that you fill in. And of course you can
remember things that are totally untrue. I don’t think the truth comes
from the accuracy of accumulated details. It comes from something
deeper, separate from that.
I guess that’s one reason why I love
fiction, even though some people are saying, "Oh, fiction’s dead
and nobody wants to read stuff that’s not true". Because I really
do think that fiction is true. Truth is in art.
Anne Borden lives in
Toronto. |