TDR Interview: Sara Tilley
Part of TDR's feature on Toronto
Books: Spring 2008
Sara Tilley’s debut novel Skin
Room (Pedler, 2008) alternates between Sanikiluaq, Northwest Territories (now
Nunavut), and St. Johns, Newfoundland; between 12-year-old Teresa
Normans crash into Inuit culture and her later life as a 23-year-old
adult in the harrowing final phase of coping with the tragedy of her
year in Sanikiluaq. She is an innocent victim of severe cultural
misunderstanding. Sara Tilley is describing the mores of Inuit
schoolchildren or the contemporary downtown St. Johns arts scene, she
carries a reader close, every step of the way. TDR recently asked Tilley
a few questions about her literary debut.
"I'm not really sure whose writing influences my work,"
Tilley says. "It's probably a question better left to impartial
observers. I can tell you a few of the writers whose work I love,
instead, knowing that I am leaving a great many out at the same time: Angela
Carter."
Tilley has been absorbing Carter’s work as of late, fresh off the
heels of releasing her own debut novel Skin Room.
"Actually, I'll soon have read everything she ever wrote. I tried
to start an Angela Carter Discussion Group, but no one but my
boyfriend wanted to join. I think she's strangely unknown to many
readers, in Canada anyway. I also adore the book Three Steps on the
Ladder of Writing by Helene Cixous and can honestly say it gave
me courage to persist when I was alone and wavering. I love Salman
Rushdie, Shakespeare, Margaret Atwood, Reinaldo
Arenas, Jean Genet, Clarice Lispector. My magic
realist habit. I grew up reading the work of wonderful writers from Newfoundland:
Michael Winter, Lisa Moore, Michael Crummey, Agnes
Walsh, Carmelita McGrath, and many more. Those writers made
me want to write when I grew up."
I spoke with Sara about the process of developing a major work of
fiction over a span of years, juggling work and waiting around for
publishers to respond. She said, "The manuscript is both vastly different and
exactly the same as it was when it won the first prize in 2004. By which
I mean that the writing itself is a lot different, as my style has
matured in the past four years. The writing is bound to change the more
that you work on something. However, the heart of the book is the same,
the essence of the character is the same, and the central themes are all
the same."
Tilley submitted the manuscript in 2004 to the Percy Janes Award
after a six-month period of working with Lisa Moore through the Banff
Centre's Wired Writing Program. Tilley found the experience "fantastic.
... I worked through my first eight or so full drafts, holed up in
my parent's basement. (It probably wasn't so great for Lisa, who was
getting new material sent to her every two weeks or so). My writing
process is very intuitive and it follows its own course. It feels like
excavation sometimes - like the original, pure and perfect novel is
sitting there, intact, from the moment I write the first word, and I am
just digging and digging through layers until I get as close as I can to
that unchangeable thing, so for me it's never a question of the work
being 'finished'."
Later that same year, Tilley won the Percy Janes First Novel Award in
2004 and began working full-time in theatre, revising the manuscript
sporadically. "I think by May 2005 I had stopped revising
altogether and was just waiting to hear word from publishers, which of
course as we all know can be a very long process. So, when the Fresh
Fish Award was begun in 2006, I came back to the book with fresh eyes
and was able to make some really important structural changes.
"When it
won the award, I was ecstatic. It afforded me the chance to work with an
editor of my choosing, and Stan Dragland agreed to work with me through
another two drafts. We really didn't change much, focusing on overall
style and deepening one or two scenes which still weren't fleshed out
enough. Stan was a lovely editor, and suggested I submit the work to
Pedlar Press. Both he and Beth Follett then worked lovingly with me on
the final spit and polish. It was a wonderful, positive experience... I
am still swooning a little."
Interview by Nathaniel G. Moore (April 2008)
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TDR: Was it at all difficult crafting the varying voices of the
narrators? how did you separate the process or did you?
ST: I started out by writing some of the young Teresa material.
This was my initial impulse, to get certain tangible sense memories out
onto paper, for though I lived in the Northwest Territories as a child,
it's not something I talk about often. The memory of the tundra led me
to the character, to her voice. Then, after I had written about eighty
or so pages about the young Teresa, I wrote what is now the first and
the last chapter of the book, which are set in present-day St. John's.
Again, it was an impulse about the landscape which led to the voice, and
an impulse to write out Teresa's story from that perspective. As a
playwright my work is often based in monologue, and that form led
naturally to work on this book. Once I find the rhythm of the
character's thoughts, their playfulness, their fears and their hopes,
then the voice comes naturally. Once I knew that there were to be two
versions of the character, I began writing interlocking chapters, and
would work back and forth on both voices at once.
TDR: Is ‘crotch tag’ a real game that you played? in Ontario we
were/are more nipple-focused.
ST: Yes, it is a real game. Or it was. It was like tag except,
well, you had to tag the person in the crotch, the harder the better.
The charming lives of children! One time my mother and I were out for a
walk, and the night before we had watched the Degrassi episode where
Wheels goes hitchhiking and is molested by the driver who picks him up.
As we were walking, my mom said to me that if anyone ever touched me
like that man did to Wheels, in my privates, that I was to tell her
immediately. I said that people had already touched me there, lots of
them. Practically the whole class. My mom turned white and shook me.
"What do you mean?"
"Yeah, crotch tag, mom. You've never heard of it?"
TDR: Your background is in theatre, where did you study, and are you
working on anything dramatic now? What are you working on writing-wise?
ST: I went to York University and graduated with a BFA in Acting,
although I also spent a year studying costume, set and lighting design.
This has served me well, since I have worked as an actor, director,
designer, stage manager and artistic director with various theatre
companies in Newfoundland, including my own company, She Said Yes!
Right
now I am in Vancouver for six months doing a one-on-one mentorship with
Ian Wallace to learn to teach Pochinko Clown Through Mask, which is a
form of clown technique based in Native American shamanism, and an
intensely creative process. Part of this work is the development of a
new clown show, which is not done in the usual scriptwriting process,
but through physical exploration and improvisation. It's currently
centered around a wild child raised by seagulls and a spider woman...
TDR: Having just witnessed the creation and publication of your first
book, what are you working on now?
ST: I am working on a second novel, which is based on about 200
pages of letters, log book entries, and poems that were written by my
great-grandfather, Duke, and his family, when he left Newfoundland to
travel to the Klondike Gold Rush in the early 1900's. He planned on
going up to his brother's logging camp on the Tanana River for a year or
two to make enough money to get his father out of debt, and ended up
staying there over a decade, making notes each day on life in Alaska.
It's fascinating, mysterious and terribly sad stuff and I have been
working on the research side of this for a couple of years so far.
Duke's writing style is quite unique, with its own turns of phrase, and
long, run-on sentences without punctuation but with plenty of Capital
Letters. I am just starting to work on the first draft and I have no
idea where it will lead me.
Nathaniel G. Moore is TDR’s features editor.
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