Submission 0377-ANDERSON

Submitter: David Anderson

Community: Victoria

Date Submitted: December 1, 2010

Summary:
The issue of artificial on-land treatment of Victoria's sewage has no significant relevance to the Fraser sockeye. The net effect of Victoria's sewage outfalls, when all factors are taken into account, is that it has little impact on Pacific salmon and what there is can be expected to be positive. Proceeding with the decision to implement artificial on-land sewage treatment will waste money that could be better spent on science work on salmon and oceans. Should the commission decide to consider this subject as part of their deliberations, it should seek input from the people who are the actual experts in this field.

Submission:
November 17, 2010
The issue of artificial on-land treatment of Victoria's sewage has no significant relevance to the Fraser sockeye. However, I understand that it came up more than once at the Commission's Public Forum in Victoria and those promoting artificial on-land sewage treatment linked salmon declines to Victoria's sewage outfalls.
I have looked into every significant report on this issue over the past twenty years. There is no credible evidence that suggests an adverse linkage between Victoria’s sewage outfalls and Pacific salmon. The actual result of the present natural at sea system is a slight increase in the nutrients for plankton in the seawater of the Strait of Juan de Fuca. In this manner these nutrients enter the food chain that ultimately ends up as food for salmon and other fish. These nutrients also assist in the growth of marine vegetation (kelp, etc.) which also assists in the salmon life cycle. Of course that is not the whole story. There are various unpleasant chemicals in any waste water stream, treated or otherwise. But the net effect, when all factors are taken into account, is that the current system has little impact on salmon and what there is can be expected to be positive.
The Cohen Commission could do the province and the country a favour by pointing out the irrationality of insisting on Victoria's sewage receiving artificial on-land treatment. Unless the decision is reviewed, we can expect to spend 750-1,200 million dollars on this--to the inevitable detriment of other measures, such as science work on salmon and oceans, which hasn't been done, largely because of cost. There is plenty of money for needed science work, provided we do not waste money in irrational ways.
Should the commission decide to consider this subject as part of their deliberations, I ask that you seek input from the people who are the actual experts in this field. To offer you a flavour of this discussion, from an international body that monitors marine pollution, I attach to this submission a 2008 editorial for review. Additionally, the commission can find more information on the Responsible Sewage Treatment Victoria website at www.rstv.ca.
Best regards,
David Anderson

Submission Files:

File 1:

Marine Pollution Bulletin _08.pdf

Comment List

Name: priscilla judd

Date Created: December 5, 2010


Comment:
The solution to pollution is not dilution!

There is no excuse for pumping sewage into the ocean!

We don't need "scientific" evidence to know it's harmful to put sewage in the ocean - we can use common sense.

This is the same over used excuse that allows politicians to justify pollution: "it costs too much"

Well - Now there is an inexpensive solution - a primary sewage treatment - all natural, no chemicals or electricity and no multimillion dollar infrastructure - producing 99% clean water.

Victoria needs Vegetated Sand Beds System - Go to: http://www.newswet.com

Now - there is no excuse! Please save the salmon for future generations.
thank you

Name: Priscilla Judd

Date Created: December 12, 2010


Comment:
please check out the following "google translate" links to see how the VSB system is cleaning up the third world

http://www.bidnetwork.org/page/132624/en

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http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://sustentator.com/blog-es/2010/04/30/pantanos-secos-artificiales-en-argentina/&ei=CiIETe

Name: John Newcomb

Date Created: August 17, 2011


Comment:
From my experience as a community environmental activist in Victoria (1984-85, chair Sierra Club Victoria Chapter, 1999-2002, chair Greater Victoria Chamber of Commerce Environment Committee) with Victoria sewage treatment issues, I would agree completely with David Anderson's analysis of the shortcomings of the CRD sewage treatment plan so far. There has been NO interest in understanding the actual environmental impacts of Victoria's specific effluent in Victoria's specific marine discharge area, but only a reliance on less than relevant end of pipe approaches developed elsewhere.